W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > semantic-web@w3.org > May 2014

Re: European court reaches verdict with profound impact in Internet

From: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 05:41:49 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <1400330509.83243.YahooMailNeo@web162605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
To: "janowicz@ucsb.edu" <janowicz@ucsb.edu>, "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>, "semantic-web@w3.org" <semantic-web@w3.org>
My point of view is shared by most members of EDRI, the European Digital Rights platform. Google is forced to change everything including offensive content from e.g. FaceBook!!! And because of the European legalese the verdict will also apply generically to all other search engine companies.

And btw my concept of Orwellian is the European one not the US version.
From Wikipedia;

"Orwellian" is an adjective describing the situation, idea, or societal condition that George Orwell identified as being destructive to the welfare of a free and open society. It connotes an attitude and a brutal policy of draconian control by propaganda, surveillance, misinformation, denial of truth, and manipulation of the past, including the "unperson" — a person whose past existence is expunged from the public record and memory, practiced by modern repressive governments. Often, this includes the circumstances depicted in his novels, particularly

We already have non-accountable surveillance both in form of cameras, mobility tracking and mass surveillance as revealed by the avalanche of revelations set in motion by Edward Snowden, and now we may add manipulation of the past.

And the FCC has just allowed a fast lane, violating net neutrality.

I am European born and bred and tend to see things in much more contrast and detail than most US and other global citizens.

But there is a way out of the verdict and it involves novel use of linked data and semantic web technologies.

In fact the European court has just handed Tim Berners-Lee the seed for an Internet bill of rights. The first search engine compay to comply and collaborate with this, almost certainly Google itself will set the tone and pace for change.


Milton Ponson
GSM: +297 747 8280
PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
Project Paradigm: A structured approach to bringing the tools for sustainable development to all stakeholders worldwide by creating ICT tools for NGOs worldwide and: providing online access to web sites and repositories of data and information for sustainable development

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.

On Friday, May 16, 2014 5:42 PM, Krzysztof Janowicz <janowicz@ucsb.edu> wrote:
 


>> Otherwise an Orwellian future looms at the horizon where history is
>> conveniently rewritten in cases where for freedom of information reasons
>> this obviously should NOT.

I know that this is not the most productive way to address your email 
and start a discussion on an important topic; but, with all respect, 
your email is highly biased, does not well reflect the original 
intention of the court, and you may have to revisit Orwell's book (and 
what is typically meant by 'Orwellian').

Best,
Krzysztof



On 05/16/2014 01:09 PM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program wrote:
> The European Union Court has reached a verdict with a profound impact on
> the functioning of the Internet.
>
> See:
> <http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?docid=152065&mode=req&pageIndex=1&dir=&occ=first∂=1&text=&doclang=EN&cid=34297>

>
> In essence when you Google your own name, the search results page is
> subject to European privacy laws which state that the individual whose
> name popped up has the right to correct or alter information appearing
> on the results page.
>
> Google by virtue of this verdict is now forced to create some mechanism
> to offer any European Union individual just that.
>
> Issues about verification of individual requesting removal set aside it
> also has profound implications about freedom of right issues.
>
> What about suspects in ongoing criminal or other court cases who would
> want to exercise their right innocent until proven guilty, which would
> obviously benefit all criminals and corrupt individuals.
>
> I think it is high time that the creators, maintainers and developers of
> the platforms which collectively form the Internet sit down with search
> engine companies and work out some practical rules to provide the option
> of the right to have some personal information forgotten, as stated in
> this European verdict feasible.
>
> Otherwise an Orwellian future looms at the horizon where history is
> conveniently rewritten in cases where for freedom of information reasons
> this obviously should NOT.
>
> Milton Ponson
> GSM: +297 747 8280
> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
> Project Paradigm: A structured approach to bringing the tools for
> sustainable development to all stakeholders worldwide by creating ICT
> tools for NGOs worldwide and: providing online access to web sites and
> repositories of data and information for sustainable development
>
> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the
> system manager. This message contains confidential information and is
> intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named
> addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.


-- 
Krzysztof Janowicz

Geography Department, University of California, Santa Barbara
5806 Ellison Hall, Santa Barbara, CA 93106-4060

Email: jano@geog.ucsb.edu
Webpage: http://geog.ucsb.edu/~jano/
Semantic Web Journal: http://www.semantic-web-journal.net
Received on Saturday, 17 May 2014 12:45:01 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.3.1 : Tuesday, 1 March 2016 07:42:50 UTC