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Re: Blog on the provenance constraint document

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:19:34 +0200
Cc: W3C Semantic Web IG <semantic-web@w3.org>, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
Message-Id: <751969EA-AE98-4D20-9A43-BCD869EB8A1B@w3.org>
To: Giovanni Tummarello <giovanni.tummarello@deri.org>
Gio,

unfortunately, the timing of this publication is misleading. Indeed, the constraint document is one in a group of four recommendations-to-be, but the other three have already been in Last Call for a while. It just completes the picture (and the blog may not have made this very clear).

http://www.w3.org/blog/SW/2012/07/24/last-call-3-working-drafts-for-provenance-interchange/
http://www.w3.org/blog/SW/2012/07/24/the-prov-o-provenance-ontology-last-call/

gives information on the other three documents (from July). The Primer document from the WG:

http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-prov-primer-20120724/

is, in fact, (at least for me) the entry point into this.

Compared to the other three documents and the primer the constraint document is indeed very theoretical and addresses the needs of a much smaller community. Maybe that should have been emphasized more in the announcement. 

For RDFicians the two documents one would start with is the primer and the vocabulary itself:

http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-prov-o-20120724/

with, possibly, keeping an eye on the more abstract data model in case some details are not clear:

http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-prov-dm-20120724/

Maybe Paul and/or Luc have something more to add...

Thanks

Ciao

Ivan

On Sep 13, 2012, at 22:55 , Giovanni Tummarello wrote:

> Ivan,
> with the due respect doesnt it feel a bit too much old school
> logician/reasonericians stuff again?
> 
> I believe it would be in w3c interest to make sure that any new
> 'semantic standards' document is preambled prominently with a very
> clear summary and one or more real world use cases it addresses or
> that caused it to become a standard.
> 
> Gio
> 
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
>> If you want to know more about the Provenance Constraint document:
>> 
>> http://www.w3.org/blog/SW/2012/09/12/last-call-constraints-of-the-provenance-data-model-2/
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>> Ivan
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