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Re: dir.w3.org [was Re: Additional usages for Semanticweb.org]

From: Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:37:47 +0400
Message-ID: <CAAT7DEGKLgZ11B0QuZdjoRcqO-QwfqWrGcfop=y9kB85pPBBRw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
Cc: Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
Hi Phil!

Thanks for the explanation, I see that now.
-----
Yury Katkov




On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org> wrote:

> Hi Yuri,
>
> See the second paragraph on the dir.w3.org homepage:
>
> "At this time a username & password is required to enter your details.
> Please email support at 3roundstones dot com with subject "Directory".
> Thanks."
>
> And then expect a reply from Bernadette Hyland - she's usually quick off
> the mark with these :-)
>
> HTH
>
> Phil.
>
> On 16/01/2012 15:49, Yury Katkov wrote:
>
>> To be honest I've tried to add or modify information on dir.w3.org and
>> failed - the service asks for username and password bu there is no
>> registration. Is it always so?
>> -----
>> Yury Katkov
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Hugh Glaser<hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>  wrote:
>>
>>  Eeek!
>>> Please, not Yet Another Directory of companies, tools, projects.
>>> There are already quite few of these, I think, all expecting people to
>>> come along and edit them.
>>> This one went through the list only a couple of months ago.
>>> http://dir.w3.org/directory/**categories_list.xhtml?**construct<http://dir.w3.org/directory/categories_list.xhtml?construct>
>>> then for projects there is
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/wiki/SweoIG/**TaskForces/CommunityProjects/**
>>> LinkingOpenData#Research_**Projects_focusing_on_Linked_**Data<http://www.w3.org/wiki/SweoIG/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/LinkingOpenData#Research_Projects_focusing_on_Linked_Data>
>>>
>>> Of course, if there is a Semantic Web solution so I only have to provide
>>> my data once (or even by publishing an RDF file?)... :-)
>>>
>>> Well done all resurrecting semantic web.org.
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On 16 Jan 2012, at 09:16, Stefan Decker wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I think this is an excellent idea.
>>>> In the early days we had this with business.semanticweb.org - but it
>>>>
>>> makes
>>>
>>>> a lot more sense to integrate it into the main site.
>>>> To give it a head start maybe a few of us (you, Michael, Markus)
>>>> add a number of obvious candidates.
>>>>
>>>> Best.
>>>>
>>>> Stefan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Yury Katkov<katkov.juriy@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the use cases for semanticweb.org can be collecting
>>>>> informations
>>>>> about SW companies. This can be benefitial both for the resourse, for
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>
>>>> company and for end users who want to know, what companies are making
>>>>> business related to the Semantic Web.
>>>>> 1) It's good for semanticweb.org because wiki will be used more
>>>>>
>>>> intencively.
>>>
>>>> Some of the companies will eventually decide to post information about
>>>>>
>>>> their
>>>
>>>> projects.
>>>>> 2) It's good for companies. Some of them are too small to be in
>>>>>
>>>> Wikipedia,
>>>
>>>> but can experience a need in self-promotion and search engine
>>>>>
>>>> optimization.
>>>
>>>> Semanticweb.org rank on Alexa.com is big enough and Semantic MediaWiki
>>>>>
>>>> can
>>>
>>>> provide Rich snippets for popular engines so that search results will be
>>>>> prettier.
>>>>> 3) It's good for user who is interesing in semantic web technologies -
>>>>> a
>>>>> younger scientist can make a good survey of the companies, a potential
>>>>> customer of semanticweb solutions can have centralized entry point for
>>>>> search the company she needs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Presently there are some companies described on a wiki. But there is no
>>>>> infobox for them and the are not shown on the Main page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely yours,
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Yury Katkov
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Stefan Decker<stefan.decker@deri.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A recent proposal we are working on is to establish a vocabulary
>>>>>>
>>>>> editing
>>>
>>>> facility under SemanticWeb.org,
>>>>>> If there are suggestions for usages of SemanticWeb.org
>>>>>> we would look forward to hear about those!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Dieter Fensel<dieter.fensel@sti2.at
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> as Stefan, I think this is a great proposal of you!! I appreciate
>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>> your kind offer in supporting
>>>>>>> the community in archiving the past.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you also have some proposals in mind on how we should support the
>>>>>>> future
>>>>>>> evolvement
>>>>>>> of this information source?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward your advice,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dieter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 05:42 PM 1/13/2012, Tim Berners-Lee wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's not an offer, I'm just saying we have one that in the past.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For any future project we'd have to understand what is needed and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what
>>>
>>>>  it
>>>>>>>> would take
>>>>>>>> to do, before we could offer anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2012-01 -13, at 09:46, Stefan Decker wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Tim,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> this is a great offer!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Tim Berners-Lee<timbl@w3.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is indeed an important issue for the community.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One community service that W3C has provided in the past has been
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> take over the service of a domain, like daml.org, which hosts
>>>>>>>>>> ontologies which may be used by all kinds of people, but whose
>>>>>>>>>> development has stopped.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also, we have come to agreements with some domain hosts which
>>>>>>>>>> have sem web ontologies that if they wrap up the project or the
>>>>>>>>>> organization
>>>>>>>>>> we will take over the domain in the future.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> W3C itself has a persistence policy which commits that we will do
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>> with another public interest hosting organization should we ever
>>>>>>>>>> wrap up W3C.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I could ask folks whether we could do this for *.semanticweb.org
>>>>>>>>>> domains
>>>>>>>>>> which are no longer being modified.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2012-01 -13, at 04:04, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  This is only weakly related to this wiki site discussion but
>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>> be easy to solve anyway. Short answers:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Subdomains of semanticweb.org are managed independently and
>>>>>>>>>>>> (mainly) on different servers run by different people. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> responsibility is
>>>>>>>>>>>> with the people who asked for the subdomain. Stefan Decker is
>>>>>>>>>>>> managing the
>>>>>>>>>>>> domain registration and should know who is responsible in cases
>>>>>>>>>>>> where it is
>>>>>>>>>>>> not clear from the web page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  * Content of earlier versions of semanticweb.org has not been
>>>>>>>>>>>> migrated in the last relaunch of the site a few years ago. As
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>
>>>>  as it is
>>>>>>>>>>>> just static HTML content that does not conflict with new content
>>>>>>>>>>>> (i.e., if
>>>>>>>>>>>> there is nothing else under that URL now), it would be possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>
>>>>  put it
>>>>>>>>>>>> back into its place. To do this, please send me an email with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> archived
>>>>>>>>>>>> HTML content and let me know where to put it. I do not have
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> access
>>>
>>>>  to any
>>>>>>>>>>>> old versions of the site, so I cannot help in finding the old
>>>>>>>>>>>> content.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How did that happen?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should also have a look at
>>>>>>>>>>> http://semanticweb.org/wiki/**Special:PopularPages<http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:PopularPages>to figure what
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>
>>>>  relevant
>>>>>>>>>>> or not (modulo person-pages and long tail). Happy to invest some
>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>> content-wise ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>       Michael
>>>>>>>>>>> -[...]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Professor Stefan Decker
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Professor of Digital Enterprise
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tel: +353.91.495011
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.deri.ie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Dieter Fensel
>>>>>>> Director STI Innsbruck, University of Innsbruck, Austria
>>>>>>> http://www.sti-innsbruck.at/
>>>>>>> phone: +43-512-507-6488/5, fax: +43-512-507-9872
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Professor Stefan Decker
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Professor of Digital Enterprise
>>>>>>
>>>>>> National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tel: +353.91.495011
>>>>>>
>>>>>> E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Web: http://www.deri.ie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Professor Stefan Decker
>>>>
>>>> Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute,
>>>>
>>>> Professor of Digital Enterprise
>>>>
>>>> National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland.
>>>>
>>>> Tel: +353.91.495011
>>>>
>>>> E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org
>>>>
>>>> Web: http://www.deri.ie
>>>>
>>>> Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Hugh Glaser,
>>>             Web and Internet Science
>>>             Electronics and Computer Science,
>>>             University of Southampton,
>>>             Southampton SO17 1BJ
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> --
>
>
> Phil Archer
> W3C eGovernment
> http://www.w3.org/egov/
>
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>
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