- From: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
- Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 08:58:24 +0000
- To: Martin Hepp <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
- Cc: Markus Krötzsch <markus.kroetzsch@cs.ox.ac.uk>, Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Semantic MediaWiki users <semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net>, Linked Data community <public-lod@w3.org>
> 1. Try to remove the recent spam > 2. Enforce a strict registration schema and allow edits only to > registered participants. > > I think the community is small enough so that we could easily > determine eligibility of new people. > +1 Cheers, Michael -- Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway Ireland, Europe Tel. +353 91 495730 http://linkeddata.deri.ie/ http://sw-app.org/about.html On 13 Jan 2012, at 08:52, Martin Hepp wrote: > Hi Markus, all: > I think it would be sufficient to > > 1. Try to remove the recent spam > 2. Enforce a strict registration schema and allow edits only to > registered participants. > > I think the community is small enough so that we could easily > determine eligibility of new people. > > Best > > Martin > On Jan 12, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Markus Krötzsch wrote: > >> Hi Yuri, >> >> let us take this to one mailing list semantic-web@w3.org, as this >> is the list that is most involved (please drop the others when you >> reply). >> >> As the technical maintainer of the site, I largely agree with your >> assessment. In spite of the very high visibility of the site (and >> perceived authority), the active editing community is not big. This >> is a problem especially given the significant and continued spam >> attacks that the site is under due to its high visibility (I just >> recently changed the captcha system and rolled back thousands of >> edits, yet it seems they are already breaking through again, though >> in smaller numbers). >> >> I do not want to blame anybody for the state of affairs: most of us >> do not have the time to contribute significant content to such >> sites. However, given the extraordinary visibility of the site, we >> should all perceive this as a major problem (to the extent that we >> attach our work to the label "semantic web" in any way). >> >> So what can be done? >> >> (1) Freeze the wiki. A weaker version of this is: allow users only >> to edit after they were manually added to a group of trusted users >> (all humans welcome). This would require somebody to manage these >> permissions but would allow existing projects/communities to >> continue to use the site. >> >> (2) Re-enforce spam protection on the wiki. Maybe this could be >> done, but the site is targeted pretty heavily. Standard captchas >> like ReCaptcha are thus getting broken (spammers do have an >> effective infrastructure for this), but maybe non-standard captchas >> could work better. This is a task for the technical maintainers >> (i.e., me and the folks at AIFB Karlsruhe where the site is hosted). >> >> (3) Clean the wiki. Whether frozen or not, there is a lot of spam >> already. Something needs to be done to get rid of it. This requires >> (easy but tedious) manual effort. Some stakeholders need to be >> found to provide basic workforce (e.g., by hiring a student to help >> with spam deletion). >> >> (4) Restore the wiki. Update the main pages (about technologies and >> active projects) to reflect a current and/or timeless state that we >> would like new readers to see. This again needs somebody to push >> it, and for writing pages about topics like SPARQL one would need >> some expertise. This is a challenge for the community. >> >> I am willing to invest /some/ time here to help with the above, but >> (3) and (4) requires support from more people. On the other hand, >> there are probably hardly more than 20 or 30 *essential* content >> pages that we are talking about here, plus many pages about >> projects and people that one should ask the stakeholders to review. >> So one might be able to make this into a shining entry point to the >> semantic web in a week of work ... together with (1) and (2) above, >> the invested work would remain valuable for a long time. >> >> Cheers >> >> Markus >> >> >> >> On 12/01/12 10:43, Yury Katkov wrote: >>> Hi everyone! >>> >>> What is the current status of the semanticweb.org >>> <http://semanticweb.org> website? It used to be the main wiki >>> about the >>> semantic web, it has a lot of cool and useful information about >>> everything. But now it seems abandoned. I mean, there are about 30 >>> real >>> writers who update the information about their projects an write >>> articles, but they do something like 30% of changes. The other 70% >>> is spam! >>> >>> Are there guys who support the website? >>> Who manages the community, are there any plans of creating >>> projects and >>> articles about SW? Is there community at all? >>> >>> In my opinion if this great website suppose to be alive the first >>> goal >>> is to find volunteers who'll help administrator to combat spam (with >>> bots, extensions and editing policies) and support the new >>> activities >>> and projets on the wiki. (I'm ready to be one of them). >>> If this wiki lived only in the past when it was a big hype around >>> Semantic Web topics and now without a big funding nobody wants to >>> use it >>> - wouldn't it better to be frozen? >>> >>> I appreciate and admire people who started up the wiki. Please, >>> don't >>> let it be the rotting memorial to the past of the Semantic Web. >>> ----- >>> Sincerely yours, >>> Yury Katkov, WikiVote llc >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Markus Kroetzsch >> Department of Computer Science, University of Oxford >> Room 306, Parks Road, OX1 3QD Oxford, United Kingdom >> +44 (0)1865 283529 http://korrekt.org/ >> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > martin hepp > e-business & web science research group > universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen > > e-mail: hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org > phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 > fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620 > www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) > http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) > skype: mfhepp > twitter: mfhepp > > Check out GoodRelations for E-Commerce on the Web of Linked Data! > ================================================================= > * Project Main Page: http://purl.org/goodrelations/ > > > >
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