Re: [http-range14] Definition of the Dereferencing URI

Thank you for the resource coming from Leo Sauermann as i didn t know it 
personnaly. I m not talking about this one 
http://www.w3.org/TR/cooluris/ (2008)....:)

in your mail i don t read anything else i ve written in mine so i 
consider it as a confirmation about something which is not new and not 
so complicated at all.

the most important is that a professionnal who is working on a specific 
project has to be able to build something which works and is coherent 
respecting the standards we all are able to find and red anyway.

when i ve subscribed to this list i didn t read anything which declares 
that  this list exists only for people who already know evething about 
SW and then i aim to use it everytime i will need to have more details 
about one or more aspects of the W3C standards about SW and LOD.

Cheers
Ghalem

Le 18/02/2012 12:29, Andrea Splendiani (RRes-Roth) a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I think it would be good to read the docs recently proposed in this 
> thread(ish) by Leo Sauermann:
>
> http://linkeddatabook.com/editions/1.0/
>
> and
>
> http://www.w3.org/TR/cooluris/
>
> this, in order to have at least some common definitions, otherwise we 
> exchange mails to define what we mean for "de-referencing" ;)
>
> In short:
> - de-referencing comes from the server (which may imply the "owner", 
> without venturing in other issues).
> - it is the act of pointing the agent to another resource which can be 
> retrieved and which relates to the requested URI (for which there is 
> no document). **read the linked data tutorial for more precision**
> - this is still different from content negotiation, that is what 
> "usually" related to the header request.
>
> The canonical story goes:
> - You ask to resolve the identifier of Berlin: 
> http://germany.de/Berlin (just an example)
> - The server answer: cannot provide "Berlin".. but you can see my page 
> about Berlin (http://germany.de/wikiGermany/Berlin)
> - You ask for the page saying: I'd like have it in rdf/html etc. 
> (could be a request in the header).
>
> If you have some more question, I'm happy to answer... but I guess off 
> mailing list it would be better!
> Many people here heard these things over and over!
>
> best,
> Andrea
>
>
> Il giorno 18/feb/2012, alle ore 10.14, Ghalem Ouadjed (EOWEO) ha scritto:
>
>> Hi
>> the thing is not clear for me is that dereferencing a uri is not an 
>> act coming from the agent which is calling "this" uri but by the uri 
>> owner himself. So dereferencing is not the act of retrieving a uri 
>> but the act of providing a uri in a way to make it correspond to the 
>> header s definition of the agent...
>>
>> Ghalem
>>
>> Le 17/02/2012 23:37, Yang Squared a écrit :
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am writing a paper and I would like to define the meaning of the 
>>> Dereferencing URI on the Web.
>>>
>>> When resolve a URI on the traditional Web, we retrieve a document 
>>> representation of the resource with status code 200OK, means we 
>>> resolve the URI successfully. On the Semantic Web, when resolve a 
>>> Real World Object URI, we cannot retrieve the object itself, but we 
>>> will redirect to a information resource (a RDF document) which 
>>> describes the URI, by parsing the RDF, we can understand the meaning 
>>> of the URI according to the RDF triples description, we conclude 
>>> that the request succeeded.
>>>
>>> Here are my definitions:
>>>
>>> *Resource: *Anything can be identified by a URI.
>>>
>>> Dereferencing URI: the act of retrieving a representation of a 
>>> resource or the semantic description of a resource created by the 
>>> URI owner.
>>>
>>> Dereferencing Succeeded: When dereferencing a URI, an agent 
>>> successfully retrieved the representation of the resource or 
>>> received the semantic description of a resource via the protocol 
>>> specified within the URI.
>>>
>>>
>>> Any comment is welcome,
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Yang
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> Tel: +44(0)23 8059 8346
>>>
>>> twitter: @yang_squared <http://twitter.com/#%21/yang_squared>
>>>
>>>
>>
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