- From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:30:07 +0100
- To: adasal <adam.saltiel@gmail.com>
- Cc: "semantic-web@w3.org" <semantic-web@w3.org>
Adasal (ok, Adam) glad you can read between the lines:-) > When you move into the area of search you are talking big >business interests and this really high lights the whole problem >that confronts the public data semantic community. on the bigger scale, its the control over information in general that is political and manipulative the web and search engines that allow to use the web are inherently disruptive. resistance to change is a constant all along :-) > The problem two fold, privacy of data/data ownership and business model. well, a search service simply pulls up data that has been published to the web with the intent of making it findable, business model for the search service is a tad more challenging, but there lots of options, advertising being the most obvious > Buying a washing machine is very different to thinking generally about global warming. at some level its not. (if I understand what you say) when buying a washing machine nowadays, in addition to the usual price/performace considerations, the responsible consumer also thinks global warming > The internet at the moment seems to be more skewed to immediate consumption than providing the ground for informed debate This is because the modern information/media machinery has developed as an instrument of the consumeristic machinery, and nothing escapes the market /profit logic, not even culture, nor education , nor the research industry (the public funding of research should be intended for the public good, instead the strings of the public reserach funds are controlled by individuals and organisations designed to serve the interests of a speculative technocratic machine which profits from disinformation. its that simple. The internet is either going to play along with the market game, as dicta or face serious bad weather - which is a bit what has happened in recent years - > Meanwhile social media is glammed up and fed by information gathered from individuals that goes to creating that environment through the filter of the provision of an income stream for the service provider. This inhibits a certain type of innovation. > well, it doesn't have to . if the 'critical mass' coalesces, enough people upholding sustainability principles and rejecting profiteering logic of the research industry, perhaps alternatives can emerge. humanity evolves through higher levels of knowledge (consciousness for those who are not afraid of the word ) neanderthat>>> sapiens>>>? > Contemplating alternatives is difficult. life is difficult- >> But a more negative reflection of the true state of the world would > be dangerous (cause unrest) so those highly trained editors would never allow it. ah, you have come across that issue of media ownership/information control/information policy/manipulation of public resources too > Thinking about the content reflected in search results I think that the internet does allow this debate in the form of mailing list type forum - yes- the open web and search engines, with all their limitations, are fantastic as they are imho , and we spend far too much time plastered to it let make the most of it.? :-) cheers PDM it is just that I may not have explored as much as I might - so the question > about semantic search might be how results would more intelligently reflect > some of this public debate - if that is what someone is looking for? > Something along those lines? > That is a more intelligent understanding of topics. > > Adam > > > > On 19 August 2012 11:30, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hellew Hugh >> >> >>I can sort of begin to imagine how it might be done, but it would >>be >> >> >>quite hard work. >> >> any search agorithm hides extreme complexity- >> >> a search engine is a simple interface that covers it up (for my luck) >> and allows the user to dig >> >> standard search brings up a blanket result, while >> advance search allows the search algorithm to be modified >> according to more defined criteria >> >> I annot possibly understand why there isnt such a thing as a semantic >> search public engine yet >> (or is there?? give now please :-) >> >> >> >>>And so I can't make the business case to do it - >> lots in public funding spent to develop the SW, i would have thought >> this kind of feature would be a priority for research? >> when something works a business model can be built around it >> >> have a good Sunday >> :-) >> >> P >> >
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