Re: Wikidata export in RDF

On Aug 6, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Steve Harris wrote:

> On 2012-08-06, at 13:35, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
> 
>> Steve,
>> 
>> thank you for the comments. I appreciate that you took the time for the review.
>> 
>> 2012/8/6 Steve Harris <steve.harris@garlik.com>:
>>>> PS:  I believe that the xsd:date format is YYYY-MM-DD, not DD-MM-YYY.
>>> 
>>> Yes, it's YYYY-MM-DD.
>> 
>> I corrected it.
>> 
>>> Also xsd:integer might be a better choice than xsd:int, to make comparisons with other data easier. xsd:integer is a supported type in SPARQL, xsd:int is not. If you're publishing data in Turtle, then you can just write bareword integers, e.g. 3499879 and they will be xsd:integers.
>> 
>> I changed this to xsd:integer.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>>> I find the use of predicates with a capital after the namespace a bit jarring (e.g. q:Method), but it's perfectly legal of course.
>> 
>> It could become even more jarring, as we actually will probably not
>> use q:Method in the export but rather a numeric ID like q:P17234.
>> On the other hand, we plan to have q-en:Method owl:equivalentProperty
>> q:P17234 and q-de:Methode owl:equivalentProperty q:P17234 etc. as
>> convenience URIs.
>> But that is a completely different discussion, where the draft is not
>> finished yet: <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Multilingual_data>
>> -- I would prefer *not* to have this discussion yet. I will ping this
>> list as soon as the first draft for that is finished.
> 
> Ouch. I know you said you didn't want to have this discussion (sorry!), but please bear in mind people building SPARQL queries using a UI - they will have serious predicate URI bloat, and no easy way to pick the "right" URI.
> 
> I think this would run contra to good URI practice - deliberately creating lots of very similar URIs for the same thing is not ideal. URIs are supposed to be opaque anyway.
> 
> I think something like q:method rdfs:label "Method"@en, "Methode"@fr, "Methode"@de, "方法"@zh, … is more common, and more user friendly - even if you have to use q:p17234 instead of q:method.

+100. 

Pat Hayes


> 
> - Steve
> 
> -- 
> Steve Harris, CTO
> Garlik, a part of Experian
> +44 7854 417 874  http://www.garlik.com/
> Registered in England and Wales 653331 VAT # 887 1335 93
> Registered office: Landmark House, Experian Way, Nottingham, Notts, NG80 1ZZ
> 
> 
> 

------------------------------------------------------------
IHMC                                     (850)434 8903 or (650)494 3973   
40 South Alcaniz St.           (850)202 4416   office
Pensacola                            (850)202 4440   fax
FL 32502                              (850)291 0667   mobile
phayesAT-SIGNihmc.us       http://www.ihmc.us/users/phayes

Received on Monday, 6 August 2012 18:55:58 UTC