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Re: LOD Cloud Cache Stats

From: glenn mcdonald <glenn@furia.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 13:05:08 -0400
Message-ID: <BANLkTinL85XhDr6oDCXhMO6t1HfwF7gCXg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Cc: "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>, "semantic-web@w3.org" <semantic-web@w3.org>
>
> I am demonstrating and talking about what Virtuoso infrastructure enables..
>

You're talking about it, and you're *trying* to demonstrate it. But your
demonstrations are consistently undermined by other factors you consider
irrelevant.

Nonsense. See http://jeffjonas.typepad.com/IRAHSS_Expert_Counting.pdf,
>
> Again, I've discussed these matters with Jeff and this is not about perfect
> numbers.
>

"Perfect" is hardly the issue here. I encourage people to read the paper.

which summarizes itself like this: "This article suggests that the single
> most fundamental capability required to make a sensemaking system is the
> system’s ability to recognise when multiple references to the same entity
> (often from different source systems) are in fact the same entity." dbpedia
> as a dataset fails this test badly.
>
> And how on earth does that have anything to do with Counting?
>

I encourage *you* to read the paper, too.

 Not sure what you mean by "exhibit" here. Your queries timeout, so unless
>> the needle happens to be in the first page of the haystack, you're not going
>> to find it.
>>
>>
>>  No they don't and that's where we just will not connect. You've already
>> seen our browser pages that do just that, and your next response will
>> ultimately take us back to arguing about page aesthetics.
>>
>
>  Sorry, I can't follow this response. By "no they don't" do you mean that
> your queries *don't* timeout? They certainly do when I try them.
>
>
> You can actually issue SPARQL with timeouts. Do you not remember the
> conversation about partial aggregates in ad-hoc queries using SPARQL or SQL?
> That's what I am talking about. What we call "Anytime Query" [1] as a
> critical technique for ad-hoc queries at infinite scale [2].
>

And as I've said before, this is an impressive technical accomplishment. But
it's not always helpful for people. If I have to page through 20 straws of
hay at a time, that's not what I mean by searching the haystack.



> The folks on this mailing list understand why RPIs dataset is loaded to the
> LOD cloud and what it means.
>

Perhaps so. Somebody want to describe the practical use they're making of
this data?
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