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Re: longevity of names

From: Frank Manola <fmanola@acm.org>
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:36:01 -0400
Message-id: <8FC40E9C-BCA7-4C51-B2F5-1C190290BFAD@acm.org>
Cc: Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
To: Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>
Danny--

After reading your OP and several responses, I'm still not sure exactly what this thread is about.  Is the problem 

- "who [or what] is this "Julius Caesar" that these ancient texts talk about?"

- "I can't read these ancient texts [in which names including "Julius Caesar" might appear, only I can't tell because I can't read them]?"

- both?

- something else entirely?  

--Frank "feeling he needs an example"


On Mar 25, 2010, at 7:38 AM, Danny Ayers wrote:

> On 25 March 2010 11:48, Jakub Kotowski <jakubkotowski@gmx.net> wrote:
>> Danny Ayers schrieb:
>>  > The data on the planet now is probably as fragile.
>>> 
>>> What *is* the digital equivalent of parchment?
>> 
>> Digital data definitely is fragile but usually it is seen so because
>> recording and playback methods quickly become outdated. There already
>> are people looking at this problem:
>> 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Dark_Age
>> 
>> Perhaps the problem of naming should be brought to their attention.
> 
> Thanks Jakub, interesting material.
> 
> Long-term naming really does seem a bit of a pain - immediate reaction
> would be to go for names that are forcefully protocol independent
> (i.e. URNs), but that would be ignoring all the goodness of the Web,
> and in any case URIs as names are technically protocol-independent.
> 
> Perhaps things will improve when we see more focus on personal
> (/agent/business entity etc) -oriented naming directly, with WebIDs
> and so on, rather than having to live with the current model where
> naming is devolved to 3rd party service providers.
> 
> While Steve Pemberton's approach seems a bit idealistic, utopian even,
> I do believe he's hitting the nail on the head in many respects -
> 
> http://homepages.cwi.nl/~steven/vandf/2008.03-website.html
> 
> Cheers,
> Danny.
> 
> -- 
> http://danny.ayers.name
> 
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