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Re: .htaccess a major bottleneck to Semantic Web adoption / Was: Re: RDFa vs RDF/XML and content negotiation

From: Pierre-Antoine Champin <swlists-040405@champin.net>
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:50:37 +0100
Message-ID: <4A54B23D.4010809@champin.net>
To: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@webbackplane.com>
CC: Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>, "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>, "semantic-web@w3c.org" <semantic-web@w3c.org>
Mark,

disclaimer: I have nothing against the RDFa solution; I just don't think 
that one size fits all :)

ok, the solutions proposed here (by myself and others) still involve 
editing the .htaccess. However, compared to configuring HTTP 
redirections using mod_rewrite, they have two advantages:

- they are shorter and hopefully easier to adapt
- they are more likely to be allowed for end users

So I think it is a progress.

Furthermore, some of the recipes may work without even touching the 
.htaccess file, providing that

- executable files are automatically considered as CGI scripts
- index.php is automatically considered as a directory index

One size does not fit all, that is why we should provide several simple 
recipes in which people may find the one that works for them.

This is why I'm asking (again) to IIS-users and (other httpd)-users to 
provide non apache recipes as well.

Of course, the "publish it in RDFa" recipe is a perfectly legal one !

   pa

Le 08/07/2009 15:13, Mark Birbeck a écrit :
> Hi Pat,
>
>> I have checked with my system admin, and they tell me, Yes that is correct.
>> You cannot access your .htaccess file. You cannot modify it or paste
>> anything into it. Only we have access to it. No, we will not change this
>> policy for you, no matter how important you think you are. Although they do
>> not say it openly, the implicit message is, we don't give a damn what the
>> W3C thinks you ought to be able to do on our website.
>
> I agree that this seems to be getting like Groundhog Day. :)
>
> The original point of this thread seemed to me to be saying that if
> .htaccess is the key to the semantic web, then it's never going to
> happen.
>
> I.e., ".htaccess is a major bottleneck".
>
> The initial discussion around that theme was then followed by all
> sorts of discussions about how people could create scripts that would
> choose between different files, and deliver the correct one to the
> user. But the fact remained -- as you rightly point out here -- that
> you still need to modify .htaccess.
>
>
>> Now, has anyone got any OTHER ideas?  An idea that does not involve changing
>> any actual code, and so can be done using a text editor on an HTML text
>> file, would be a very good option.
>
> :)
>
> Did I mention RDFa?
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
>
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