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Re: Plan3 — A Procedural RDF Programming Language

From: Giovanni Tummarello <giovanni.tummarello@deri.org>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:24:53 +0100
Message-ID: <210271540809240624h24037a80wdcb1a01f422bfcbf@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Sean B. Palmer" <sean@miscoranda.com>
Cc: public-cwm-talk@w3.org, semantic-web@w3.org

> * http://inamidst.com/whits/2008/technobunkum
> — Recommended reading for all Semantic Web engineers.

Thank you much for putting this into words.
I think however that not all is lost with respect to Web Semantics.
Microformat and (increasingly, for several reasons RDFa) are beginning
to be seen quite a bit out there. (out of the
get-paid-to-work-on-puzzle-with-your-friends as you very appropriately
point out ) .  :-)

So even if this data is broken, very incomplete, difficult to
interlink etc, the fact that it is out there makes it to me so much
more interesting. Driving me out of the addition to the "invent at all
costs" and back into the domain of "comparing and reasoning" (before
inventing ;-) .

Giovanni





On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Sean B. Palmer <sean@miscoranda.com> wrote:
> In October 2007 I made a procedural RDF programming language and
> implemented it on top of CWM. Today I've released all the code, tests,
> and documentation that I could find relating to this project:
>
> http://inamidst.com/sw/plan3/
>
> The main files to look at are:
>
> http://inamidst.com/sw/plan3/plan3.py — the implementation
> http://inamidst.com/sw/plan3/tests — a summary of the tests
>
> To make it work, you'll have to hook it up to cwm somehow. I don't
> recall how I did this, but I don't think it was more than a few lines
> to be changed; I don't have a patch available. I don't have anything
> else available relating to this project, that I know of, except what's
> in that directory.
>
> The following old Whits post describes some of the rationale of the language:
>
> http://inamidst.com/whits/2007/10#plan3
>
> And, somewhat, how it works. This software is not supported to any
> degree, and I don't plan on working on it or developing it any
> further. I do not recommend that it be used, but who knows what other
> value it might have?
>
> (At the very least, it demonstrates how strange the idea of doing all
> Semantic Web programming declaratively really was—though of course all
> Semantic Web programming is strange Technobunkum* to a large degree
> anyway. This half-baked data-structured mongrel doesn't escape that,
> despite its heritage in Pluvo. The idea of having
> procedural-imperative accessors to a declarative environment, which is
> the direction in which plan3 was heading, may however be nifty to
> those who are interested in that sort of thing.)
>
> Thanks,
>
> * http://inamidst.com/whits/2008/technobunkum
> — Recommended reading for all Semantic Web engineers.
>
> --
> Sean B. Palmer, http://inamidst.com/sbp/
>
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