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Re: DBpedia 3.2 release, including DBpedia Ontology and RDF links to Freebase

From: Juan Sequeda <juanfederico@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:22:07 -0600
Message-ID: <f914914c0811171222q51ff0254p432af91949c488ab@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Richard Cyganiak" <richard@cyganiak.de>
Cc: "John Goodwin" <John.Goodwin@ordnancesurvey.co.uk>, "Sean Bechhofer" <sean.bechhofer@manchester.ac.uk>, "Jens Lehmann" <lehmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>, "Chris Bizer" <chris@bizer.de>, public-lod@w3.org, "Semantic Web" <semantic-web@w3.org>, dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net
As anybody considered reusing the DBpedia ontology?

Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student

Research Assistant
Dept. of Computer Sciences
The University of Texas at Austin
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On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de>wrote:

>
> John,
>
> Here's an observation from a bystander ...
>
> On 17 Nov 2008, at 17:17, John Goodwin wrote:
> <snip>
>
>> This is also a good example of where (IMHO) the domain was perhaps over
>> specified. For example all sorts of things could have publishers, and not
>> the ones listed here. I worry that if you reuse DBpedia "publisher"
>> elsewhere you could get some undesired inferences.
>>
>
> But are the DBpedia classes *intended* for re-use elsewhere? Or do they
> simply express restrictions that apply *within DBpedia*?
>
> I think that in general it is useful to distinguish between two different
> kinds of ontologies:
>
> a) Ontologies that express restrictions that are present in a certain
> dataset. They simply express what's there in the data. In this sense, they
> are like database schemas: If "Publisher" has a range of "Person", then it
> means that the publisher *in this particular dataset* is always a person.
> That's not an assertion about the world, it's an assertion about the
> dataset. These ontologies are usually not very re-usable.
>
> b) Ontologies that are intended as a "lingua franca" for data exchange
> between different applications. They are designed for broad re-use, and thus
> usually do not add many restrictions. In this sense, they are more like
> controlled vocabularies of terms. Dublin Core is probably the prototypical
> example, and FOAF is another good one. They usually don't allow as many
> interesting inferences.
>
> I think that these two kinds of ontologies have very different
> requirements. Ontologies that are designed for one of these roles are quite
> useless if used for the other job. Ontologies that have not been designed
> for either of these two roles usually fail at both.
>
> Returning to DBpedia, my impression is that the DBpedia ontology is
> intended mostly for the first role. Maybe it should be understood more as a
> schema for the DBpedia dataset, and not so much as a re-usable set of terms
> for use outside of the Wikipedia context. (I might be wrong, I was not
> involved in its creation.)
>
> Richard
>
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