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Re: What if an URI also is a URL

From: M. David Peterson <m.david@xmlhacker.com>
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:22:55 -0600
To: "Tim Berners-Lee" <timbl@w3.org>, "r.j.koppes" <rikkert@rikkertkoppes.com>
Cc: "Yuzhong Qu" <yzqu@seu.edu.cn>, "Sandro Hawke" <sandro@w3.org>, semantic-web@w3.org, swick@w3.org, phayes@ihmc.us
Message-ID: <op.ttol4hk5gb2xtc@m-david-petersons-computer.local>

On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 07:13:52 -0600, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org> wrote:

> No. It cannot identify both a document and a person.

Tim: Will all due respect... WTF?

Wait, hold up.  Let me step back.  I have a *DEEP* admiration and respect  
for you.  Always have.  As such, I have to step back and realize there is  
obviously a reason why you have made this statement.  With this in mind,

http://mdavid.name

At this URI you will find my personal web page.  That web page links to my  
various blogs and projects that exist on the web.

Embedded into this page is an OpenID delegation that specifies "Here's who  
I am.  Here's where you can go to invoke an authentication process that,  
when complete, provides reasonable assurance that I am the person who  
maintains control of that particular URI (mdavid.name) and as such I  
should be allowed access to perform the various operations I have been  
given permission to perform on your web site."

So we have a web page that represents me.

Embedded in that web page is the necessary information for an OpenID  
authentication service to access the necessary information that allows a  
web site that supports OpenID to authenticate me as the person who  
presently maintains control of that domain.

Same HTML.  Two different purposes.  Both served.

> No. It cannot identify both a document and a person.

Why?  Are you suggesting that what I have done -- i.e. used a domain I  
presently maintain control over to provide information embedded into the  
same document intended to serve different purposes, and do so quite  
legitamatelly and successfully -- is in fact, wrong?  If yes, how so?  It  
works and works well.  Nothing has been broken as a result, and the same  
URI had identified both a document and a person.

Care to ellaborate.

-- 
/M:D

M. David Peterson
http://mdavid.name | http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2354 |  
http://dev.aol.com/blog/3155
Received on Sunday, 10 June 2007 01:23:03 UTC

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