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RE: What if an URI also is a URL

From: Lynn, James (Software Escalations) <james.lynn@hp.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 14:48:21 -0400
Message-ID: <5A5CC5E87DE62148845CC96C8868900E0AEDD71A@ataexc02.americas.cpqcorp.net>
To: "Tim Berners-Lee" <timbl@w3.org>, "r.j.koppes" <rikkert@rikkertkoppes.com>
Cc: <semantic-web@w3.org>

I've never looked at this from this perspective before, but perhaps a
cardinal rule should be :

No resource in an RDF statement should be retrievable unless you truly
mean it to be that representation (e.g., HTML). As many have pointed
out, it is common practice to keep useful information  about a resource
on a server which can be retieved by accessing that resource's URI, but
it seems to me you would just be asking for trouble. 

J

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Berners-Lee [mailto:timbl@w3.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:31 PM
To: r.j.koppes
Cc: semantic-web@w3.org; Lynn, James (Software Escalations)
Subject: Re: What if an URI also is a URL


On 2007-06 -06, at 13:13, r.j.koppes wrote:

> Ok, herby a follow-up to the semantic-web list.
>
> To summarize:
>
> Me: suppose I am identified by http://www.example.com/mophor and there

> is also a webpage http://www.example.com/mophor...
>
> Tim: this is an error, by returning a 200 for the webpage, it is 
> identified, so these are two different things. http:// 
> www.example.com/mophor#me would be ok
>
> James: but what about fragment identifiers?
>
> Tim: no problem, since the client strips off fragment identifiers, so 
> accessing the web page http://www.example.com/mophor#me would identify

> http://www.example.com/mophor as a webpage by returning a 200 (this is

> my interpretation of what is said)


Woa.  Stop. No.   You can't access < http://www.example.com/ 
mophor#me> as it isn't a web page.
The function 'access web page' takes a URI with no hash.

The fact that the id http://www.example.com/mophor#me is used at all
indicates that  "http://www.example.com/mophor" identifies a document,
before you even think of access it.
Because the "foo#bar" means   "the thing identified by the local id  
bar within foo" in the web architecture.

You can look up < http://www.example.com/mophor#me> which means, on the
CLIENT, stripping off the "#me"
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