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AW: [ontolog-forum] Current Semantic Web Layer Cake

From: Valentin Zacharias <Zacharias@fzi.de>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:48:37 +0200
Message-ID: <0EF30CAA69519C4CB91D01481AEA06A02C32DB@judith.fzi.de>
To: "John F. Sowa" <sowa@bestweb.net>, "Pat Hayes" <phayes@ihmc.us>
Cc: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@ontolog.cim3.net>, "Ivan Herman" <ivan@w3.org>, "Juan Sequeda" <juanfederico@gmail.com>, "SW-forum list" <semantic-web@w3.org>, <semantic_web@googlegroups.com>

John F. Sowa:

[...]
>Unifying Logic is the framework that includes the others
>as subsets:  RDF, RDF-S, Rule RIF, OWL, and SPARQL.

>Each of these subsets is tailored for a specific kind of
>inference engine and/or a specific range of uses.  What
>unifies them is the common model-theoretic semantics.
>That semantics enables all of them to interoperate on
>shared data and produce consistent results.

RIF is a format for sharing rules created in different languages (or
dialects) and - at least according to the documents they have published [1]
- not all of these dialects are required to have a model theoretic semantic.
In their own words [1]: "A dialect is a rule language with a well-defined
syntax and semantics. This semantics must be model-theoretic,
proof-theoretic, or operational in this order of preference. " 

Which also is probably the reason for the "misplacement" of the unified
logic box - there is no (known) unifying logic for the union of these
formalisms. 

(maybe change the layer stack and replace "RIF" by "RIF core"?)

[1]: http://www.w3.org/TR/rif-core/ 


greetings, 

valentin


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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: semantic-web-request@w3.org [mailto:semantic-web-request@w3.org]
> Im Auftrag von John F. Sowa
> Gesendet: Montag, 30. Juli 2007 22:24
> An: Pat Hayes
> Cc: [ontolog-forum]; Ivan Herman; Juan Sequeda; SW-forum list;
> semantic_web@googlegroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [ontolog-forum] Current Semantic Web Layer Cake
> 
> 
> Pat,
> 
> I agree that the proof box is misplaced, but I think
> that the major problem is that the logic box is not
> correctly positioned.
> 
>  > http://www.w3.org/2007/03/layerCake.png
> 
> PH> Hmm, I wonder why the 'Proof' Tetris piece has
>  > a connection to Rule without going through Unifying
>  > Logic.  That seems like a very bad decision to me
> 
> Unifying Logic is the framework that includes the others
> as subsets:  RDF, RDF-S, Rule RIF, OWL, and SPARQL.
> 
> Each of these subsets is tailored for a specific kind of
> inference engine and/or a specific range of uses.  What
> unifies them is the common model-theoretic semantics.
> That semantics enables all of them to interoperate on
> shared data and produce consistent results.
> 
> My suggestion would be to draw the Unifying Logic box as
> a large container that includes all the others inside:
> RDF, RDF-S, Rule RIF, OWL, and SPARQL.
> 
> John
> 
Received on Tuesday, 31 July 2007 12:19:33 UTC

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