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Re: [Aperture-devel] vCard Meeting 7/18 - 2 ET?

From: Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:10:07 -0400
Message-Id: <70540bfafd954f996816c3982ab58e8c@gmail.com>
Cc: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@ibiblio.org>, Dmitry Ulanov <dulanov@gmail.com>, Aperture Developers <aperture-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>, semantic-web@w3.org, Antoni Mylka <antoni.mylka@gmail.com>, Leo Sauermann <leo@gnowsis.com>, Garret Wilson <garret@globalmentor.com>
To: Leo Sauermann <leo.sauermann@dfki.de>


On Jul 24, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Leo Sauermann wrote:

>  It was Bruce D'Arcus who said at the right time 23.07.2007 18:17 the 
> following words:On 7/18/07, Leo Sauermann <leo@gnowsis.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>  Aperture will move to the Nepomuk NIE [2] ontology soon, where we 
>>> have
>>> further formalized vCard [3], vCalendar, and many other things. We 
>>> have made
>>> some suggestions[4] on the calendar-dev mailinglist for needed 
>>> bugfixes of
>>> [1], but the list is hibernated, and then we decided to roll our own.
>>>
>> Leo -- what does this mean for the ongoing work here on an updated 
>> vcard-in-rdf?
>>
>
> I cannot say what implications this has for you, because I don't know 
> your organization nor standardization body nor the work you are doing 
> in detail.
>  perhaps you could give me more detail?

I am referring to the work that Norm Walsh, Harry, and Brian Suda first 
did on an updated vcard-in-rdf ...

<http://www.w3.org/2006/vcard/ns>

... and the work that Harry and Garrett are now doing to finish that.

For context about why *I* care about all this, I spent the past 18 
months developing a new RDF-based metadata system for the OpenDoucment 
format at OASIS, along with people like Elias Torres.

That work is now done and approved.

Now the obvious question: what now??

I really want to recommend good, clear, stable vocabularies for 
developers to use. These developers may not have any apriori background 
or interest in RDF.

So I'd like to be able to suggest a representation for agents be used 
generally in ODF. I'd also like to use pieces of it to represent 
agents, addresses, and events in the new bibliographic ontology work 
some of us are involved in, which I also want to use in ODF:

	<http://bibliontology.com>

>  (note: I cannot follow the discussion on semantic-web@w3.org, too 
> much traffic for me :-/
>
>  We created NIE as a standard for the Semantic Desktop, within the 
> Nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org project, and we plan to implement it with 
> a reference implementation (aperture.sf.net). Standardization is first 
> by best practice and community, later we aim for official 
> standardization bodies (ISO, W3C, OASIS, still an open question).

Good.

>  What may help us both is when you look at NIE [2] and especially the 
> ontology [5] and if you find bugs, send them to us, if not, just use 
> NIE as it is.
>  By this way, we can also both work on Aperture to get good data->rdf 
> converters.
>
>  If you think that NIE is not what you had in mind, you can use 
> anything else. Ontologies are an open market :-)

But it's not a good market when you 20 different boxes of cereal on the 
shelf, with little that distinguishes them :-)

Bruce
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