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Re: Cyc Subject Predicate Object

From: Rinke Hoekstra <hoekstra@uva.nl>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:55:23 +0100
Message-ID: <45D57F8B.1060300@uva.nl>
To: "Richard H. McCullough" <rhm@PioneerCA.com>
CC: Semantic Web at W3C <semantic-web@w3.org>, OWL at W3C <www-rdf-logic@w3.org>
Dear Richard,

Since the discussion about your contributions has been opened-up (yet 
again). I would like to join Giovanni in expressing my concern that the 
larger body of subscribers to this mailinglist is not particularly 
interested in your contributions.

Just some statistics: about 40% of the posts to the semantic-web@w3.org 
mailinglist in the past 6 days were sent by you, none of which have 
received a reply.

It would be a shame to see this mailinglist go down in the same way as 
the SUO/SUMO mailinglist a few years ago (has it already been 4 years?). 
And I wholeheartedly support Giovanni's suggestions.

Best,

	Rinke

Richard H. McCullough wrote:
> 
> I did exactly what you are suggesting - 4 YEARS AGO.
> My recent emails constitute a status update, with
> new tools that members of this ML can use NOW.
> 
> But I don't want to SPAM anyone.
> Unless I receive some inquiries from this ML,
> you won't hear from me again.
> 
> Dick McCullough
> knowledge := man do identify od existent done;
> knowledge haspart proposition list;
> http://mKRmKE.org/
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giovanni Tummarello" 
> <g.tummarello@gmail.com>
> To: "Richard H. McCullough" <rhm@pioneerca.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 4:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Cyc Subject Predicate Object
> 
> 
>> Richard, are you sure your posts are appropriate in this ML?
>> While they might seem on topic, there is no reply nor hint of direct
>> interest and they involve what appear to be idiosyncrasies and are
>> anyway are hard to follow.
>> I think you should open a newsgroup of your own (look into Google
>> groups and yahoo) for respect for those who have just interest in what
>> the ML is about. the W3C Semantic Web initiative (questions and
>> answers related to the standards, announcements of new projects
>> (please note that people just anonunce, dont insist on things unless
>> they're asked directly and think that the reply interests more) )
>> Sincerely
>> Giovanni
>>
>> On 2/15/07, Richard H. McCullough <rhm@pioneerca.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. Here's my first cut at organizing all those
>>> first-level concepts in the Cyc hierarchy.
>>> Looks like we should call this one an
>>> Entity-Relation-Proposition hierarchy.
>>>
>>> # <html><xmp>
>>> # KEHOME/kb/spo.cyc
>>> # Feb/15/2007
>>>
>>> begin hierarchy Entity-Relation-Proposition;
>>> Thing;
>>> # entity
>>> /  Entity;
>>> /  IndexicalConcept;
>>> /  Individual;
>>> //     TemporalThing;
>>> ///     SomethingExistiing;
>>> ////         Entity;
>>> /  Intangible;
>>> /  PartiallyIntangible;
>>> /  PartiallyTangible;
>>> /  TangibleThing;
>>>
>>> # characteristic
>>> /  Relation;
>>> //      FixedArityRelation;
>>> ///         BinaryRelation;
>>> ////             Property;
>>>
>>> # context
>>> /  Microtheory;
>>> # proposition
>>> /  CycLQuery;
>>> /  CycLTerm;
>>> /  DocumentationConstant;
>>> /  ELSentence-Assertible;
>>> /  ELTemplate;
>>> /  ELVariable;
>>> /  Path-Generic;
>>> /  PathSystem;
>>> /  ReformulatorHighlyRelevantFORT;
>>> /  ReformulatorIrrelevantFORT;
>>> /  SubLSymbol;
>>> /  TheTerm;
>>>
>>> # group
>>> /  SetOrCollection;
>>> // Collection;
>>> ///     Class;
>>> ///     CoreConstant;
>>> // Set-Mathematical;
>>> end hierarchy Entity-Relation-Proposition;
>>>
>>> begin hierarchy imaginary;
>>> Nothing;
>>> end hierarchy imaginary;
>>>
>>> # propositions
>>> # Thing      has Property = Value;
>>> # individual isu class;
>>> # species    iss genus;
>>> (#$Property #$Thing #$Value);
>>> (#$isa individual class);
>>> (#$genls species genus);
>>>
>>> # mKR relation CycL
>>> nonexistent is Nothing;
>>> existent is Thing;
>>> #  entity is Entity;
>>> #  characteristic is Relation;
>>> #  proposition is Proposition;
>>> # isu is isa;
>>> # iss is genls;
>>> #</xmp></html>
>>>
>>> 2. I'm still looking at the internals of the ERP hierarchy.
>>> I've found more Collections, and lots of Type classes.
>>> I think all these Type classes have the same error -- using
>>> "isu","iss" relations instead of "ismem" relations.  I'm not
>>> aware of any reason for having these Type classes.
>>> My guess, pending further investigation, is that all the
>>> Type classes should be removed from the hierarchy.
>>>
>>> Dick McCullough
>>> knowledge := man do identify od existent done;
>>> knowledge haspart proposition list;
>>> http://mKRmKE.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 

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