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Re: Reinventing the wheel ( ...again ); this time with RDF In/Out Services

From: Leo Sauermann <leo.sauermann@dfki.de>
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:58:31 +0100
Message-ID: <457D1DB7.9070605@dfki.de>
To: Aldo Bucchi <aldo.bucchi@gmail.com>
CC: semantic-web@w3.org
yes, its reinventing the wheel.

the buzzword name for the idea is most probably "semantic web services"
and there is a gazillion publications on how to describe them, discover 
them, automatically connect them, map them, exchange them, ....

a "down-to-earth-simple" approach is, for example, this one:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/h81x123477248232/?p=53b388d08be94a01a9e28edffbde5219&pi=25
http://www.bibsonomy.org/bibtex/09a39cb2fa25bbd58cfc0853ba6f85fa3/leobard

@inproceedings{DBLP <http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/%7Eley/db/about/bibtex.html>:conf/pakm/TakabayashiNTFY06,
  author    = {Yuya Takabayashi and
               Harutaka Niwa and
               Mitsuharu Taneda and
               Naoki Fukuta and
               Takahira Yamaguchi},
  title     = {Managing Many Web Service Compositions by Task Decomposition
               and Service Quality Evaluation.},
  booktitle = {PAKM},
  year      = {2006},
  pages     = {291-302},
  ee        = {http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/11944935_26},
  crossref  = {DBLP:conf/pakm/2006},
  bibsource = {DBLP, http://dblp.uni-trier.de}
}


greetz
Leo


Es begab sich aber da Aldo Bucchi zur rechten Zeit 05.12.2006 10:08 
folgendes schrieb:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Don't you hate it ( or love it in a subtly twisted way ) when you run
> across the very same "I bet no one's ever done this" feature you've
> been working heads down for last two nights?
>
> Well, this time its about this RDFIO thingy... a declarative way to
> wrap services.
> I had two names for it... the first was RDF BAGs ( before/after graphs
> ) or RDFio, but liked the former because it emphasizes the "wrapping"
> action and the latter is just too dumb.
>
> Anyway,
>
> Is there any further work around this?
> say... RIROs & REST for example..
>
> ( noticed how rest has become a little unrestful these days? )
>
> I've had a lot of fun trying to create some simple algorithms to
> undertsand at a higher level the cost and amount of arc traversals
> that could be made over a set of BAG-wrapped services ( ok... RIRO
> services ). Would make for a nice paper, server yourselves.
>
> Another neraby issue... does anyone know if there's a "query service
> description" taxonomy /vocabulary?
> When using this wrappers there is a recurrent need to specify further
> "capabilities" of the service.
>
> I need a way to state that
>
> paramA, fulltext search filter
> paramB, mask filter ( full match )
> sort on B
> sort on C
> the service provides a count() service ( taking the same params but on
> another URL, or passing a flag, or using OPTIONS, who knows )
>
> get the point?
>
> I believe that with this new REST momentum there is pretty nice chance
> to leap this evident gap and push rdf closer to mainstream. To me,
> it's clear that one fundamental mistake in the marketing of the sw has
> been neglecting the need ( and value ) of these simple "recipes".
>
> We are missing the glue... the transport.
>
> I'm now leading a big (10-20 devs) project and I'm willing to give RDF
> a try as the framework for integrating part of the data ( mashup )...
> again, I twistedly love the pain found in early adoption.
>
> Any pointers appreciated!
>
>


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