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Minutes: XML Schema Patterns for Databinding Telcon 19 February 2007

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minutes from today's telcon are now available here:

http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/8/2/19-databinding-minutes.html

and copied below for your convenience:

                                        - DRAFT -

             XML Schema Patterns for Databinding Working Group Teleconference

19 Feb 2008

   See also: IRC log

Attendees

   Present
          Jon Calladine (BT)
          George Cowe (Origo Services Limited)
          Paul Downey (BT)

   Regrets
   Chair
          pauld

   Scribe
          pauld

Contents

     * Topics
         1. Administriva
         2. Missing Examples?
         3. Collection
         4. Test Suite
         5. Meeting
     * Summary of Action Items
     ____________________________________________________________________________

Administriva

   minutes from the last telcon approved

Missing Examples?

   Jonc: we're down to the last 17 patterns

   <JonC> List of patterns without example: AttributeFormQualified

   pauld: I felt that as far as Basic was concerned, we're done!

   gcowe: I've been checking and putting them into CVS on Jon's behalf

   pauld: how do we know which ones we can't write examples for?

   jonc: formqualified is hard one to hit

   <JonC> AttributeFormQualified,ComplexTypeAnyAttribute, ElementFormUnqualified,
   ExtendedSequenceLaxAny, ExtendedSequenceLaxOther, ExtendedSequenceSkipAny
   ExtendedSequenceSkipOther ExtendedSequenceStrictAny ExtendedSequenceStrictOther
   ExtendedSimpleContent MixedComplexContent QualifiedLocalAttributes
   SequenceAnyStrict SimpleContentAnyAttribute UnionSimpleAndMemberTypes
   UnionSimpleTypes UnqualifiedLocalElements

   pauld: unqualified we can probably ignore, except I know the WSDL 2.0 test suite
   used them. Nobody in the wild does, and they're not BP

   gcowe: we can't really prove unqualified elements, without adding a default
   namespace

   pauld: unless the default namespace is "" it's not a valid test
   ... at this point, I'm not worried about running the tests, but good examples in
   6/09 would be, er, good

   <JonC>
   http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/patterns/6/09/AttributeReferenceUnqualified
   /

   this example looks easy to write an example for?

   pauld: can't we add a flag to an example to fill in a default namespace

   <scribe> ACTION: pdowney to enhance the explode_examples.xsl to add a default
   namespace [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2008/02/19-databinding-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-128 - Enhance the explode_examples.xsl to add a
   default namespace [on Paul Downey - due 2008-02-26].

   if it's elementFormDefault="unqualified" (the default), then you need a flag to
   switch that off in the generated WSDL/Schemas.

   pauld: I'll have a think about supporting these and other xs:schema attibutes

   jonc: last issue is the ExtendedSequence etc
   ... exploding into lots of separate patterns

   pauld: how do we know when we're done?
   ... want to be driven by the collection

   jonc: I'm prepared to do the work

   pauld: at this stage we'll accept patterns, so long as they don't make "Basic"
   "Advanced"
   ... i.e don't bu993r it up :)

   gcowe: gday, gyear, gmonth, are simple, but don't involve timezones

   jonc: it's all paul's fault - wanted to keep it simple as possible!

   pauld: *dunk*

   gcowe: .NET and others have issues for non-timezone instances

   <JonC> G pattern <xs:pattern value="--10|--11|--12"/>

   pauld: does timezone qualified make sense here?

   gcowe: yeah, looks fine as we are

   pauld: thanks so much for all this work!

Collection

   pauld: I'm still working on the collection, in particular annotating the schema
   with patterns detected. turns out to be computing intensive.
   ... will continue to work on this

   http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/collection/

   we hope to use this to drive patterns

   http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/collection/collection.xml

   http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=definitions+filetype%3Awsdl&btnG=Google+Sear
   ch

   http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+filetype%3Axsd&btnG=Search

   pauld: some sites, you have to sign up, in which case I've taken a snapshot, but
   that's member-visible

   jonc: I see lots of pendings in the report

   pauld: jonc, you need to push me to work on the collection!

   gcowe: is the collection report upto date?

   pauld: rebuilding, now ..
   ... ah, Origo are all Advanced! cool!

   jonc: list looking good

   gcowe: will add some more Origo schemas

   pauld: if you know of other schemas, let us know!

Test Suite

   gcowe: not been running it, waiting until we clear the missing examples list

   pauld: sounds absolutely fine!

Meeting

   pauld: not planning on meeting F2F again. sounds fine?

   next telcon in three weeks time

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: pdowney to enhance the explode_examples.xsl to add a default
   namespace [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2008/02/19-databinding-minutes.html#action01]
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