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                                  XML Schema Patterns for Databinding Working Group Teleconference

08 Apr 2008


   See also: IRC log


   Present George Cowe (Origo Services Limited)
          Paul Downey (BT)
          Yves Lafon (W3C)




     * Topics
         1. ISSUE-12: identifying a conformant schema
         2. ISSUE-2: test suite
         3. Identifier Names
         4. Moving Forward for Advanced
     * Summary of Action Items

   thanks Yves for handling publication!


   gcowe: going to talk to the XForms WG about our publication

ISSUE-12: identifying a conformant schema

   gcowe: added the annotation to the detector source code, in offline version, and an online version on the Origo site

   <Yves> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/patterns/6/09/patternsdetector.xsl

   yves: w3c service uses the stylesheet directly

   pauld: our page is out of date: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/

   <Yves> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/patterns/6/09/detected.xsl

   gcowe: looks different to the detector used by the collection

   pauld: collection uses a different stylesheet, ant: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/collection/build.xml

   <Yves> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/test.html

   <Yves> is the right page

   <Yves> so http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/results.xsl and

   <scribe> ACTION: pdowney to investigate using detector stylesheet to optionally generate annotated HTML [recorded in

   <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-131 - Investigate using detector stylesheet to optionally generate annotated HTML [on Paul
   Downey - due 2008-04-15].

ISSUE-2: test suite

   gcowe: been helping Adrian re-run WCF and BEA
   ... still issues with running WCF, Adrian is investigating
   ... XBinder submitted testcases, but had issues with echo WSDL and schemas. I've corrected the stylesheet and put back into
   ... had issues with the CVS version

   yves: will investigate

   gcowe: excluded test cases were the issue

   pauld: I was happy for us to ignore those cases, but cool if you've fixed them
   ... I still have to rerun my tests

Identifier Names

   pauld: this was ISSUE-10

   gcowe: been looking (again) at the simple test cases:

   pauld: I think the issue you were interested in was the length, beyond 32
   ... the way we're geared up, we could end up with 1000's of examples if we're not careful
   ... suggest creating a few test cases, long names being one

   gcowe: will create those examples

Moving Forward for Advanced

   pauld: we need to move Advanced forward. Collection is key to this.
   ... Think we need to timebox this activity - maybe next couple of months ticking off the collection

   gcowe: Origo schemas are now all Advanced, mainly due to xs:choice
   ... things are improving, really having a problem with maxOccurs, maybe we could revisit that

   pauld: my issue is how as a working group we process and accept Advanced patterns into the spec
   ... suggesting we allow editors to add patterns to patterns.xml, so long as they are "advanced" and we'll consolidate and
   review before progressing the document
   ... so just take care to add sensible patterns!
   ... we'll pickup in two weeks time

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: pdowney to investigate using detector stylesheet to optionally generate annotated HTML [recorded in
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