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Minutes: XML Schema Patterns for Databinding Telcon 10 October 2006

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:22:52 +0100
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minutes from today's telcon are now available:

http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/6/10/10-databinding-minutes.html


and below for tracker's benefit:

   W3C 

                                   - DRAFT -

                         Databinding WG Teleconference
                                  10 Oct 2006

   Agenda

   See also: IRC log

Attendees

   Present
          Jon Calladine (BT)
          George Cowe (Origo Services Limited)
          Paul Downey (BT)
          Otu Ekanem (BT)
          Yves Lafon (W3C)
          Priscilla Walmsley (W3C Invited Expert)
          Vladislav Bezrukov (SAP AG)

   Regrets
   Chair
          pauld

   Scribe
          pauld

Contents

     * Topics
         1. Administrivia
         2. Status of Deliverables
         3. ISSUE-2 Test Suite
         4. ISSUE-12 Identifying a conformant schema
         5. ISSUE-49 is anySimpleType a Basic Patterns type?
         6. ISSUE-68 xs:import of Schema 1.0 namespace
         7. ISSUE-71 Relationship with WS-I Basic Profile
         8. ISSUE-57 xs:include pattern
         9. ISSUE-70 empty Enumeration as a Null Datatype
        10. ISSUE-72 Relationship to XPath 2.0
     * Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________________

Administrivia

   minutes from 19th September approved

   pauld: WG welcomes Vladislav who made an excellent contribution early
   on raising ISSUE-1 (as an observer) and now joins the WG

   <vlad> thanks, Paul

   pauld: we need to think if we need another F2F meeting, and Yves is
   going to progress thinking around an interop event.

   pauld: as we run out of Issues for the Basic patterns document, I
   expect to start building agendas around tracking actions, so watch out
   :-)

Status of Deliverables

   pauld: did a bunch of editing last night, please review the
   Introduction and Status sections of the Basic patterns document

   pauld: ACTION-74 and ACTION-73 are done, I generated an XRef HTML
   page, just need to commit it

   george: been working on ensuring we have patterns for issues and
   examples for patterns. ACTION-77 is ongoing.

   george: we've a lot of patterns and examples identified using ISSUE-30

   <pauld:> been editing patterns.xml and examples.xml, we can do a merge
   when we meet next week

   <scribe> ACTION: pdowney to possibly raise issue to hold datatypes
   [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-databinding-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-81 - Possibly raise issue to hold datatypes
   [on Paul Downey - due 2006-10-17].

   pauld: we've a bunch of patterns in our spec without examples,
   especially our attribute patterns

ISSUE-2 Test Suite

   pauld: will create a test suite page tomorrow with the log file format
   documented:

   http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/toolkits/soap4r_ruby_2005
   1204/output.xml

ISSUE-12 Identifying a conformant schema

   no news here ..

ISSUE-49 is anySimpleType a Basic Patterns type?

   priscilla: anyType is actually the default type

   <scribe> ACTION: pwalmsle to investigate use of anySimpleType
   [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-databinding-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-82 - Investigate use of anySimpleType [on
   Priscilla Walmsley - due 2006-10-17].

ISSUE-68 xs:import of Schema 1.0 namespace

   priscilla: still unclear on it's utility

   pauld: unclear exactly which schemas use it

   priscilla: maybe you want the schema for schemas to validate
   extensions?

   pauld: discounting the import makes us composable with the WS-I Basic
   Profile but may rule out some vertical standard schemas.

   pauld: let's wait and see if the WS-I BP has anything to say

ISSUE-71 Relationship with WS-I Basic Profile

   yves: ok to cite non-normatively

   pauld: how do we cite it in such as a way so they can use us rather
   than can use them

   vladislav: I know the WS-I constrain xsd:import, what other features
   are an issue?

   pauld: document encoding must be UTF-8/UTF-16

   george: we had an issue with multiple schemas for the same namespace

   <Yves> "If you plan to use this specification in the context of BP1.0
   the following extra restrictions apply: (and here a list of the
   restriction imposed by BP).

   <Yves> that in a specific non-normative paragraph

   RESOLUTION: close ISSUE-71 with Yves proposed non-normative section

ISSUE-57 xs:include pattern

   <scribe> ACTION: gcowe to look at standalone schemas for ISSUE-57 etc
   [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-databinding-minutes.html#action03]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-83 - Look at standalone schemas for ISSUE-57
   etc [on George Cowe - due 2006-10-17].

ISSUE-70 empty Enumeration as a Null Datatype

   pauld one of a number of Basic patterns we have for representing "no
   hands clapping"

   vladislav can look at these with our implementation

ISSUE-72 Relationship to XPath 2.0

   yves: we may be able to go to Rec with XPath in CR. A lot depends upon
   the number of implementations available

   pauld: alternatively we could write a profile of XPath 2.0 in our
   notational conventions

   yves: we could stte we use it as a notational convention, but you
   don't actually need XPath 2.0 to conform to our spec

   priscilla: XPath 2.0 is a subset of XQuery, so lots of tools
   potentially

   RESOLUTION: close ISSUE-72 with Yves proposal to clarify our
   relationship with XPath 2.0

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: gcowe to look at standalone schemas for ISSUE-57 etc
   [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-databinding-minutes.html#action03]
   [NEW] ACTION: pdowney to possibly raise issue to hold datatypes
   [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-databinding-minutes.html#action01]
   [NEW] ACTION: pwalmsle to investigate use of anySimpleType [recorded
   in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/10-databinding-minutes.html#action02]

   [End of minutes]
 
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