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Minutes from XML Schema Patterns for Databinding call 13 June 2006

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Minutes from today's telcon:


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                                   - DRAFT -

                         Databinding WG Teleconference
                                  13 Jun 2006


   See also: [3]IRC log


          Jon Calladine, (BT)
          George Cowe (Origo Services)
          Paul Downey (Chair, BT)
          Otu Ekanem (BT)
          Ajith Ranabahu (WSO2)

          Yves Lafon (W3C)




     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Administrivia
         2. [6]comments
         3. [7]ISSUE-34: multiple schemas for a single namespace
         4. [8]ISSUE-12: identifying a conformant schema
         5. [9]ISSUE-2: WSDL and the Test Suite (Auto-generation of )
         6. [10]ISSUE-9: Support for xs:union
         7. [11]ISSUE-33: is xs:Choice a Basic Pattern?
         8. [12]ISSUE-48: collection with local elements defined by
     * [13]Summary of Action Items

   <trackbot> Date: 13 June 2006

   <scribe> Scribe: pauld


   Minutes # 2006-06-06 teleconference

   # 2006-05-30 teleconference

   # 2006-05-22, 2006-05-23 approved



   <Ajith> I seem to be getting lot of noise - going to try reconnecting

   pauld: Renato made two comments - second is a type probably picked up
   by our pipeline
   ... is the first issue regarding semantics of ordering of repeated

   <scribe> ACTION: pdowney to raise an issue regarding significance of
   order of repeated items [recorded in

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-47 - Raise an issue regarding significance
   of order of repeated items [on Paul Downey - due 2006-06-20].

ISSUE-34: multiple schemas for a single namespace

   pauld: some progress in WS-I regarding symbol spaces under the <types>

   george: could be a migration issue for us and we expect to review our
   namespace policy

   pauld: thought handing of schema inside WSDL was 'out of scope'
   ... this issue could be in scope as a result of this issue, but worry
   about us conflicting with advice from the WS-I BP

ISSUE-12: identifying a conformant schema


   pauld: been thinking .. tried to recognise patterns (george mostly
   solved this)
   ... used this to generate a per-schema schematron to look for things
   outside of the patterns in a second pass
   ... but error reporting looks poor

   george: sound promising

   pauld: expect to get stuck soon, will then solicit help from
   [17]schematron-love-in, again

ISSUE-2: WSDL and the Test Suite (Auto-generation of)

   pauld: notion of "pending" patterns:


   otu: had some hardware problems
   ... was working from manifest file format agreed with pauld
   ... once it's ready, I'll need the real manisfest

   pauld: once again, I am the weakest link :-(

   <scribe> ACTION: pdowney to create template for submitting patterns
   [recorded in

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-48 - Create template for submitting patterns
   [on Paul Downey - due 2006-06-20].

   otu: will send example C# echo service to the list

ISSUE-9: Support for xs:union

   jonc: have an action to update pending XML .. will work on this now
   it's available
   ... will send pattern to the list

ISSUE-33: is xs:Choice a Basic Pattern?

   jonc: asks Ajith about support for Choice in Axis
   ... Axis2 has better error reporting
   ... are they using the same databinding code?

   Ajith: Axis2 is much improved version of ADB, a different beast

   <Ajith> leaving the chair for a moment!

   <scribe> ACTION: jcalladi to submit pattern for ISSUE-33 xs:choice
   [recorded in

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-49 - Submit pattern for ISSUE-33 xs:choice
   [on Jonathan Calladine - due 2006-06-20].

ISSUE-48: collection with local elements defined by reference

   pauld: used this as a template for submitting patterns
   ... not much to say, because we have yet to test it
   ... feeling confident it'll be a basic pattern
   ... but testing will help here

   jonc: it's a lame enough pattern to shove into Basic Patterns and only
   remove it later if we have difficulties

   george: seems ok, but not had that much experience with it

   omnes: toss a coin - heads it's in

   RESOLUTION: close ISSUE-48 with elementReference as a Basic Pattern

   pauld: will try to push things on with the "steel thread" which will
   help us make progress
   ... in the meantime please look for patterns, in particular for issues
   which have none defined

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: jcalladi to submit pattern for ISSUE-33 xs:choice
   [recorded in
   [NEW] ACTION: pdowney to create template for submitting patterns
   [recorded in
   [NEW] ACTION: pdowney to raise an issue regarding significance of
   order of repeated items [recorded in

   [End of minutes]

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