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Minutes from XML Schema Patterns for Databinding telcon 19 December 2006

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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:55:36 -0000
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minutes from today's telcon are now available:

http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/6/12/19-databinding-minutes.html

and copied below for tracker's searching:

   W3C 

                                   - DRAFT -

                         Databinding WG Teleconference

19 Dec 2006

   Agenda

   See also: IRC log

Attendees

   Present
          Vladislav Bezrukov (SAP AG)
          Jon Calladine (BT)
          George Cowe (Origo Services Limited)
          Paul Downey (BT)
          Yves Lafon (W3C)

   Regrets
   Chair
          pauld

   Scribe
          pauld

Contents

     * Topics
         1. ISSUE-2: test suite
         2. ISSUE-12: identifying a conformant schema
         3. ISSUE-99: XSLT 2.0 terminology?
         4. ISSUE-100: LC: Basic Profile Compliant Import
         5. ISSUE-101: fractionDigits, minLength and maxLength proposed
            patterns
     * Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________________

   pauld: Plan to change how we work, we'll collect patterns from the
   wild, add them to patterns.xml as 'pending' and then process them as a
   batch at our F2F in February.

   pauld: F2F planning, we have the dates 8-9th February in Edinburgh,
   London, Nice

   pauld: Travelling to London is central, but London is expensive and
   organising a room is tricky. My slight preference is for Nice.

   jonc: could host in Sevenoaks

   yves: can't make the 8-9th

   pauld: Ok, following week 13-15th in Nice

   <scribe> ACTION: ylafon to book room in Nice 13-15th [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-databinding-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-96 - Book room in Nice 13-15th [on Yves
   Lafon - due 2006-12-26].

   <vlad> i'm not available at that time

   vlad will go ahead with the 13-15th, maybe Vlad could join us remotely

   minutes from last telcon approved

ISSUE-2: test suite

   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2006Dec/000
   0.html

   vlad: had problems with xs:include, propose not using includes,
   include the patterns in the example schemas

   http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/examples/6/09/StringElement/

   http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/examples/6/09/StringElement/Stri
   ngElement.xsd

   pauld: are you saying the << element ref="" >> pattern is possibly
   problematic?

   vlad: this one looks fine

   <vlad> <xs:element name="targetNamespace" type="xs:string"/>

   <vlad> was missing

   pauld: in the case of TargetNamespace we have a generic issue with
   examples which are complete schemas

   vlad: these examples are incomplete

   pauld: first issue is one which george picked up around generating
   static include files
   ... second is complete schemas don't have the echo element in the
   generated echoXXX.xsd schema and WSDL

   <scribe> ACTION: pdowney to fix echo examples for complete schemas
   such as TargetNamespace [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-databinding-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-97 - Fix echo examples for complete schemas
   such as TargetNamespace [on Paul Downey - due 2006-12-26].

   pauld: not worried with the TargetNamespace example (coverage) but
   includes need fixing

   yves: currently working on removing spurious text nodes (insignificant
   whitespace) for XMLUnit comparison

   pauld: been try Axis testing working sought assistance within BT
   ... no feed back from outside the Working Group, which is a worry
   ... will contact some developers directly

ISSUE-12: identifying a conformant schema

   yves: nothing new on hosting the service

   <scribe> ACTION: pdowney to resurrect the generated schemtron
   stylesheet [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-databinding-minutes.html#action03]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-98 - Resurrect the generated schemtron
   stylesheet [on Paul Downey - due 2006-12-26].

   nice list of schemas in the wild posted to comments list:
   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding-comments/20
   06Dec/0002.html

   gcowe: continue to use the patterns detector internally

ISSUE-99: XSLT 2.0 terminology?

   pauld: took an action, proposal still in my email buffer

ISSUE-100: LC: Basic Profile Compliant Import

   pauld: this seems to be the only way to import a schema into a WSDL,
   access the elements from messages and be BP compliant

   gcowe: not a chameleon schema!

   pauld: no!
   ... could be an issue, i'm not convinced it's valid due to schema
   import not being transitive

   <scribe> ACTION: pdowney to craft examples and patterns for ISSUE-100
   transitive import [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-databinding-minutes.html#action04]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-99 - Craft examples and patterns for
   ISSUE-100 transitive import [on Paul Downey - due 2006-12-26].

   paul bores the WG with his explanation of "transistive"

   gcowe: we haven't encountered this issue.

   pauld: could be an issue for the Basic Patterns document becasue no
   targetNamespace isn't allowed
   ... suspect we could add this pattern if it's incorrect but could be a
   substantive change

   jonc: so it's currently advanced?
   ... can we craft a pattern to capture just this use

   pauld: yes, we can detect noTargetNamespace schemas with nothing but
   imports in them
   ... thinks the elements in the imported schema won't be available to a
   validator

ISSUE-101: fractionDigits, minLength and maxLength proposed patterns

   pauld: new issue from George

   gcowe: we found some patterns in our document
   ... currently have patterns but these apply to xs:string, added
   patterns for our cases

   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2006Dec/000
   6

   pauld: three patterns in one issue?

   gcowe: fractions belongs with totalDigits

   pauld: exercised how to process patterns with respect to the issues
   list
   ... I've been adding new patterns to patterns.xml as "pending"
   ... would like George (and possibly Jon) to have CVS access and to
   also work from the patterns.xml and examples.xml rather than the
   ISSUES list
   ... we can then batch up and accept patterns as Advanced and track via
   the ISSUES list at the F2F

   pauld: these patterns look Advanced though, no?

   RESOLUTION: close ISSUE-101 as Advanced patterns

   pauld: OK, that's all for today: Happy Christmas/New Year/Holidays/etc
   to everybody, and see you next on the 16th Jan

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: pdowney to craft examples and patterns for ISSUE-100
   transitive import [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-databinding-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: pdowney to fix echo examples for complete schemas such
   as TargetNamespace [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-databinding-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: pdowney to resurrect the generated schemtron stylesheet
   [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-databinding-minutes.html#action03]
   [NEW] ACTION: ylafon to book room in Nice 13-15th [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-databinding-minutes.html#action01]
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