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Minutes: XML Schema Patterns for Databinding Telcon 8 August 2006

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minutes from today's meeting are now available:

http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/6/8/08-databinding-minutes.html

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   [1]W3C 

                                             - DRAFT -

                                   Databinding WG Teleconference

8 Aug 2006

   [2]Agenda

   See also: [3]IRC log

Attendees

   Present
          Jon Calladine (BT)
          George Cowe (Origo)
          Paul Downey (BT)
          Yves Lafon (W3C)
          Priscilla Walmsley (W3C Invited Expert)

   Regrets
          Otu Ekanem (BT)
          Scott Wood (NACS)

   Regrets
   Chair
          pauld

   Scribe
          pauld

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Administrivia
         2. [6]ISSUE-68: import of schema namespace
         3. [7]ISSUE-10: Mapping Element and Type names
         4. [8]ISSUE-12 and ISSUE-65: identifying a conformant schema / overlapping patterns
         5. [9]ISSUE-15: Null datatype pattern as used by ASN.1 and others
         6. [10]ISSUE-44: complexType extension of simpleContent
         7. [11]ISSUE-20: Extension of collections
         8. [12]ISSUE-44 redux
         9. [13]ISSUE-21: Inheritance of Collections
        10. [14]ISSUE-57: xs:include pattern
        11. [15]Moving to Last Call
     * [16]Summary of Action Items
     _____________________________________________________________________________________



   <trackbot> Date: 08 August 2006

   <scribe> Scribe: pauld

   [17]http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/patterns/patterns.html

Administrivia

   working group welcomes Priscilla

   minutes from F2F approved

   [18]http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/6/8/F2F-databinding-minutes.html

ISSUE-68: import of schema namespace

   priscilla: you couldn't do this for a long time (DTD weirdness)
   ... don't see much of a use-case, except if you're going to extend schema itself
   ... saw this in a DSIG schema also

   pauld: maybe we need to look at import generically

   <scribe> ACTION: pdowney to investigate import and raise patterns and examples [recorded
   in [19]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/08-databinding-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-58 - Investigate import and raise patterns and examples [on Paul
   Downey - due 2006-08-15].

ISSUE-10: Mapping Element and Type names

   [20]http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/testsuite/documents/names/

   pauld: still need to do some work

   jonc: could be beating ourselves up a little

   pauld: detection means i'm looking for a knifeedge
   ... do we close this issue as-is, or do more work to better understand the problem space?

   gcowe: haven't had problems in this area - apart from the bottom one or two in the list
   ... tools seem to understand reserved names .. maybe not an issue

   <scribe> ACTION: jcalladi to propose text for ISSUE-10 [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/08-databinding-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-59 - Propose text for ISSUE-10 [on Jonathan Calladine - due
   2006-08-15].

ISSUE-12 and ISSUE-65: identifying a conformant schema / overlapping patterns

   examples: [22]http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/examples/6/05/

   gcowe: working on running the make on my machine, also finding it slow
   ... added patterns and examples

   yves: been working on the production of the basic document from the examples.xml and
   patterns.xml documents
   ... need to work on grouping, have an issue with table of contents

   pauld: we need to work on generating pattern uri documents

   yves: did we settle on what should go at the end of the pattern uri?

   pauld: would like an xref to specs, examples, XPath but this is costly

   yves: we need to think about what we would like ideally and make that a publication step

   [23]http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/patterns/patterns.html

   pauld: before we move on, ISSUE-65?

   gcowe: my experience with schematron is this is OK in the way we're building rules and
   patterns

   RESOLUTION: close ISSUE-65 with no action

ISSUE-15: Null datatype pattern as used by ASN.1 and others

   [24]http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/examples/6/05/NullEnumeration/NullEnumeration.xs
   d

   [25]http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/examples/6/05/EmptyComplexType/EmptyComplexType.
   xsd

   pauld: need more testing

ISSUE-44: complexType extension of simpleContent

   <scribe> ACTION: jcalladi to look at ISSUE-44 and ISSUE47 [recorded in
   [26]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/08-databinding-minutes.html#action03]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-60 - Look at ISSUE-44 and ISSUE47 [on Jonathan Calladine - due
   2006-08-15].

ISSUE-20: Extension of collections

   pauld: we have three examples, Lax, Skip, Strict

   gcowe: we need testing

   <trackbot> restarting right away

ISSUE-44 redux

   [27]http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/patterns/make-validate.log

   <trackbot> Tracking ISSUEs and ACTIONs from
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/databinding/

   RESOLUTION: close ISSUE-44 with no action, duplicate of ISSUE-47

ISSUE-21: Inheritance of Collections

   [29]http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/examples/6/05/Inherited/Inherited.xsd

   pauld: seen this generated by Java/C# tools, should be safe

   gcowe: looks basic, not seen any problems with this one

   RESOLUTION: close ISSUE-21 as a basic pattern

ISSUE-57: xs:include pattern

   pauld: can build examples for include GlobalStringElement, need chameleon includes etc

   <scribe> ACTION: gcowe to build examples for xs:include [recorded in
   [30]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/08-databinding-minutes.html#action04]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-61 - Build examples for xs:include [on George Cowe - due
   2006-08-15].

   <gcowe> george: match patterns to issues (where not already done)

Moving to Last Call

   pauld: we need more text

   jonc: happy to provide introduction

   [31]http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/edtodo.html

   pauld: will work with jon to mop up our edtodo and outstanding editor issues

   pauld: keep up the good work - we'll skip next week's telcon and hopefully have something
   to vote on for two week's time.

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: gcowe to build examples for xs:include [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/08-databinding-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: jcalladi to look at ISSUE-44 and ISSUE47 [recorded in
   [33]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/08-databinding-minutes.html#action03]
   [NEW] ACTION: jcalladi to propose text for ISSUE-10 [recorded in
   [34]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/08-databinding-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: pdowney to investigate import and raise patterns and examples [recorded in
   [35]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/08-databinding-minutes.html#action01]

   [End of minutes]
     _____________________________________________________________________________________


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