W3C

XML Security Working Group Teleconference

04 Dec 2012

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Thomas, Frederick_Hirsch, Thomas_Roessler, Gerald_Edgar
Regrets
Chair
Frederick_Hirsch
Scribe
fjh

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 04 December 2012

<scribe> ScribeNick: fjh

Administrative

Note there is a call next week, 11 December, unless cancelled (scribe note - was cancelled at end of today's call)

No call 18 Dec, 25 Dec or 1 January

Minutes Approval

Approve minutes from 27 November 2012

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec/2012Nov/att-0015/minutes-2012-11-27.html

RESOLUTION: Minutes from 27 November 2012 are approved.

Key Separation and XML Encryption 1.1

approval of added security considerations section to XML Encryption 1.1

fjh: I revised the new security considerations section based on comments from Magnus and Bruce

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec/2012Dec/0001.html plus subsequent fix for symmetric

Magnus indicated offlist that ok with revised text

juraj gave feedback this morning http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec/2012Dec/0009.html

two issues: 1 wording of security consideration, 2 definition of key derivation

question: process

fjh: believe we can add security consideration without additional process before PR

tlr: agree

fjh: could add informative example on how to do this without having to cycle through interop, LC, CR etc
... or add as separate document

tlr: agree to adding informative example, could create separate document or a 1.2 revision, agree need to ship 1.1 now

fjh: how quickly could we cycle a new release

tlr: could do it quickly, define the addition and call it 1.2, could do it within six months

fjh: do not want to stall 1.1 waiting for interest in new work

tlr: agree, do 1.1. then do 1.2 if interest, then recharter for that

<scribe> ACTION: send CfC to agree to put additional features in potential 1.2 if interest [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/04-xmlsec-minutes.html#action01]

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<scribe> ACTION: fjh to send CfC to agree to put additional features in potential 1.2 if interest [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/04-xmlsec-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-925 - Send CfC to agree to put additional features in potential 1.2 if interest [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2012-12-11].

fjh: Juraj raised a concern regarding language in the new security consideration, due to the clarification in response to Bruce and Magnus. I suggest we leave it alone
... will put this in the CfC as well

gerald: no comment

tlr: no comment

<scribe> ACTION: fjh to send CfC that WG accepts the added XML Encryption 1.1 security consideration section as currently drafted [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/04-xmlsec-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-926 - Send CfC that WG accepts the added XML Encryption 1.1 security consideration section as currently drafted [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2012-12-11].

fjh: any thoughts on appropriate length for CfC - 1 week should be enough?

tlr: yes, 1 week is enough

Key Derivation and XML Encryption 1.1

already discussed, will send CfC

Proposed Recommendation Transition: XML Encryption 1.1, XML Signature 1.1, XML Signature Properties

XML Encryption 1.1 - http://www.w3.org/2008/xmlsec/Drafts/xmlenc-core-11/Overview.html

fjh: stable but depends on decisions for security consideration and additional key derivation
... will include this in the same CfC
... signature stable, so we can make PR decision

XML Signature 1.1 - http://www.w3.org/2008/xmlsec/Drafts/xmldsig-core-11/Overview.html

<scribe> ACTION: fjh to make CfC for proposed RESOLUTION: The XML Security working group agrees to progress XML Signature 1.1 to Proposed Recommendation, using the latest editors draft of 13 November 2012 that includes an update in response to LC-2721. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/04-xmlsec-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-927 - Make CfC for proposed RESOLUTION: The XML Security working group agrees to progress XML Signature 1.1 to Proposed Recommendation, using the latest editors draft of 13 November 2012 that includes an update in response to LC-2721. [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2012-12-11].

fjh: signature properties also stable

<scribe> ACTION: fjh to send CfC for proposed RESOLUTION: The XML Security working group agrees to progress XML Signature Properties to Proposed Recommendation, using the latest editors draft of 10 September 2012 which reflects removal of at-risk items that were not tested. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/04-xmlsec-minutes.html#action05]

XML Signature Properties - http://www.w3.org/2008/xmlsec/Drafts/xmldsig-properties/Overview.html

<scribe> ACTION: fjh to submit transition request to Proposed Recommendation for XML Encryption 1.1, XML Signature 1.1 and XML Signature Properties once Exclusion Period for XML Encryption 1.1 is completed, after 17 December and CfCs approved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/04-xmlsec-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-928 - Submit transition request to Proposed Recommendation for XML Encryption 1.1, XML Signature 1.1 and XML Signature Properties once Exclusion Period for XML Encryption 1.1 is completed, after 17 December and CfCs approved [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2012-12-11].

fjh: plan to set publication date for 10 Jan, is that a problem?
... assume it is ok

Note publications

proposed RESOLUTION:The XML Security working group agrees to publish "XML Security 1.1 Requirements and Design Considerations" as a W3C Note.

Updated "Functional Explanation of Changes in XML Encryption 1.1" , http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec/2012Dec/0004.html

proposed RESOLUTION: The XML Security working group agrees to published updated Note of "Functional Explanation of Changes in XML Encryption 1.1"

XML Security Algorithm Cross-Reference, Updated editors draft : http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec/2012Dec/0005.html

proposed RESOLUTION: The XML Security working group agrees not to include XML Security 2.0 algorithms in "XML Security Algorithm Cross-Reference".

proposed RESOLUTION: The XML Security working group agrees to publish "XML Security Algorithm Cross-Reference" as W3C Note.

gerald: what about security considerations

fjh: we probably should update it for the latest and republish

<scribe> ACTION: fjh to update security considerations to add latest [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/04-xmlsec-minutes.html#action07]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-929 - Update security considerations to add latest [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2012-12-11].

<scribe> ACTION: fjh to send CfC for publishing these Notes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/04-xmlsec-minutes.html#action08]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-930 - Send CfC for publishing these Notes [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2012-12-11].

Other business

RESOLUTION: Cancel next week's call, 11 December

next call will be 8 January

fjh: we will progress our work by email

Adjourn

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: fjh to make CfC for proposed RESOLUTION: The XML Security working group agrees to progress XML Signature 1.1 to Proposed Recommendation, using the latest editors draft of 13 November 2012 that includes an update in response to LC-2721. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/04-xmlsec-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: fjh to send CfC for proposed RESOLUTION: The XML Security working group agrees to progress XML Signature Properties to Proposed Recommendation, using the latest editors draft of 10 September 2012 which reflects removal of at-risk items that were not tested. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/04-xmlsec-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: fjh to send CfC for publishing these Notes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/04-xmlsec-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: fjh to send CfC that WG accepts the added XML Encryption 1.1 security consideration section as currently drafted [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/04-xmlsec-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: fjh to send CfC to agree to put additional features in potential 1.2 if interest [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/04-xmlsec-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: fjh to submit transition request to Proposed Recommendation for XML Encryption 1.1, XML Signature 1.1 and XML Signature Properties once Exclusion Period for XML Encryption 1.1 is completed, after 17 December and CfCs approved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/04-xmlsec-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: fjh to update security considerations to add latest [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/04-xmlsec-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: send CfC to agree to put additional features in potential 1.2 if interest [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/04-xmlsec-minutes.html#action01]
 
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