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RE: Statement of Interest in XML Hypermedia

From: Rushforth, Peter <Peter.Rushforth@NRCan-RNCan.gc.ca>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 15:45:59 +0000
To: mca <mca@amundsen.com>
CC: David Lee <David.Lee@marklogic.com>, "public-xmlhypermedia@w3.org" <public-xmlhypermedia@w3.org>
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Hi Mike,

I think it should go in the use cases page.  It could be important to inform other use cases, and logically should go there.  I'm interested too! ;-)

Cheers,
Peter
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From: mca [mca@amundsen.com]
Sent: August 2, 2012 10:25 AM
To: Rushforth, Peter
Cc: David Lee; public-xmlhypermedia@w3.org
Subject: Re: Statement of Interest in XML Hypermedia

actually, this was totally written from the "I want" (me) POV. I understand about good Wiki etiquette and flaunted it here<g>.

I'll rewrite it as a kind of "strawman" we can discuss and post it later today.

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On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Rushforth, Peter <Peter.Rushforth@nrcan-rncan.gc.ca<mailto:Peter.Rushforth@nrcan-rncan.gc.ca>> wrote:
Hi David,

If I'm not mistaken, that "I want" business is from the agile / scrum methodology, and thus represents not what "Mike Amundsen" wants, but more "As a user of XML, i want " etc.

Mike could clarify, I bet.

Peter
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From: David Lee [David.Lee@marklogic.com<mailto:David.Lee@marklogic.com>]
Sent: August 2, 2012 7:17 AM
To: mca; public-xmlhypermedia@w3.org<mailto:public-xmlhypermedia@w3.org>
Subject: RE: Statement of Interest in XML Hypermedia

Appoligize for being quiet … I am an a mad rush this week getting work tied down so I can attend and present at Balisage next week.

Postings all look good at first glance.  One minor twit … I recommend wiki pages not be in first person (e.g “I want” … etc) This is a group effort and while individuals are what make the group the end result should be a group consensus and written as such.   I am no English writing expert so I don’t know how to state it better, sorry.    Something like “Hypermedia support should contain … “  as apposed to “I want support for …”
Again just a twit and a way of diverting attention to the fact I have not really studied the meat of the posts yet :)

-David



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From: mca [mailto:mca@amundsen.com<mailto:mca@amundsen.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:02 PM
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Subject: Re: Statement of Interest in XML Hypermedia

All:

I posted this last week in order to gain some clarity on goals/objectives and, aside from Mike Kelly's remark, I've seen no replies.

I'd like to hear from others (esp. David Lee and PeterR) if this statement has anything of merit, points in the proper direction, etc. If not, that's fine and I'd like to hear about that, too.

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On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Mike Kelly <mikekelly321@gmail.com<mailto:mikekelly321@gmail.com><mailto:mikekelly321@gmail.com<mailto:mikekelly321@gmail.com>>> wrote:
hey, that sounds like HAL! :)

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 5:31 PM, mca <mca@amundsen.com<mailto:mca@amundsen.com><mailto:mca@amundsen.com<mailto:mca@amundsen.com>>> wrote:
Let's try this...


I am interested in a set of affordance definitions for the XML format for effectively and efficiently expressing protocol-level state transitions (i.e. follow this link, embed the content at this link the current document, format a query string URL using the following arguments and send the request to the server, format a body using the following arguments and send it to the server, etc.).

I am esp. interested in a set of affordance definitions that are "domain-agnostic", IOW ones that are not tied to a single problem domain (accounting, document management, etc.) since this could allow/encourage the creation of standard libraries (similar to other XML-related technologies (XSLT, XSD, XInclude, etc.) that can then be applied to a wide range of server and client implementations and problem domains.


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