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Re: integration testing of xml:ID

From: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:57:41 +0200
Message-ID: <973417226.20050622025741@w3.org>
To: Norman Walsh <Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM>
Cc: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>, Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>, public-xml-id@w3.org

On Monday, June 20, 2005, 10:09:58 PM, Norman wrote:

NW> / Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org> was heard to say:
NW> | On Friday, June 10, 2005, 11:11:34 PM, Bjoern wrote:
NW> |
| BH>> * Norman Walsh wrote:
|>>>/ Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org> was heard to say:
|>>>| I can't tell if the intent is that the CSS specs get revised
|>>>| to refer to xml:ID or if CSS implementations are to independently
|>>>| pick up xml:ID support or what. The current spec is kinda waffly,
|>>>| as far as I can tell...
NW> |
|>>>We believe that xml:id can be implemented in each of these cases and
|>>>have taken (at least some) steps to demonstrate this fact.
NW> |
| BH>> This does not really answer Dan's question, or what I understood the
| BH>> question to be. From
NW> |
| BH>>  
| BH>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/CR-CSS21-20040225/selector.html#id-selectors
| BH>>   http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/CR-xml-id-20050208/
NW> |
| BH>> could you please state whether adding text like
NW> |
| BH>>   If an implementation supports CSS 2.1 and also supports
| BH>>   xml:id, then the xml:id attribute must be treated as an
| BH>>   ID for the purposes of CSS selector processing.
NW> |
NW> | I must say that this is exactly the sort of conditional conformance
NW> | requirement that i would like to see (and the same for DOM and XPath).

NW> I think it would be great to see such a statement in CSS 2.1 (and DOM
NW> and XPath 1.0; in fact, XPath 2.0 supports xml:id directly).

NW> But I don't see how any of this can be accomplished by the xml:id
NW> specification itself.

NW> I took steps to demonstrate that it was possible to implement xml:id
NW> support in CSS and XSLT 1.0 (and by extension other specifications)
NW> *without* any changes to the "upper level" specifications.

NW> Hopefully, the timely publication of xml:id as a Recommendation will help
NW> those specifications adapt to support it.

NW> If you object to closing this issue as Dan raised it, please let us
NW> know.

No objections, but please (ok so this is barter) make the statements you
made above as last call CSS2.1 comments. It is in Last Call now.

 Chris Lilley                    mailto:chris@w3.org
 Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
 W3C Graphics Activity Lead
Received on Wednesday, 22 June 2005 00:57:47 UTC

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