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Re: 4. ID assignment and the empty string

From: Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:21:24 +0000
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: Norman Walsh <Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM>, public-xml-id@w3.org
Message-ID: <f5bis5hgb8r.fsf@erasmus.inf.ed.ac.uk>

Seems to me we're confusing two things here, which the XML REC (and
xml:id as proposed) are careful to keep separate

 1) An attribute having type ID;
 2) A string being the ID of an element.

(1) is necessary but not sufficient for (2).  For (2) to hold
additional things must be true:

  2a) The string must be a valid NCName;
  2b) There must not be another attribute of type ID with the same
      string value;
  . . .

I don't see why it's necessary for xml:id to say anything more than it
has -- as Norm pointed out, 

<!DOCTYPE doc [
<doc id=""/>


<doc xml:id=""/>

both have attributes of type ID, and neither has an IDentified

UAs already do the right thing with the first case, I believe -- why
shouldn't they do the right thing with the second, without xml:id
having to say anything more than it does already?

 Henry S. Thompson, HCRC Language Technology Group, University of Edinburgh
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