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Re: 3. Frequency and timing of xml:id processing

From: Norman Walsh <Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:47:53 -0800
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: public-xml-id@w3.org
Message-id: <87zmz4xfti.fsf@nwalsh.com>
/ Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> was heard to say:
| On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Norman Walsh wrote:
[...]
|> I'm inclined to say that this processing occurs whenever the xml:id
|> Processor is invoked and that it is up to the application to decide
|> when this occurs.
|
| Could some requirements be placed on certain classes of applications?

I don't know of any broadly accepted classification scheme for all
existing and yet-to-be-invented applications. Without such a scheme, I
don't know how the xml:id specification could identify classes of
applications in any practical way. I fear that attempting to classify
existing applications without some way to classify the ones that
haven't been invented yet will just make xml:id become more confusing
as time passes.

| It 
| would be unfortunate if one Web browser never updated its concept of 
| IDness where another maintained its IDness live with document changes, as 
| the results for scripts, stylesheets, XForms, et al, would be radically 
| different. If both behaviours are conformant, then interoperability will 
| be hard to obtain.

This problem already exists. At the moment ID assignment is only
normatively performed by the parser. I believe that our statement,
"Users of applications that provide facilities for modifying XML
documents may reasonably expect xml:id processing to occur whenever a
change is made to an ID value", will encourage interoperability.

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

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