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RE: tag name state

From: David Lee <David.Lee@marklogic.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 13:19:30 -0800
To: Noah Mendelsohn <nrm@arcanedomain.com>, David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk>
CC: "public-xml-er@w3.org" <public-xml-er@w3.org>
Message-ID: <EB42045A1F00224E93B82E949EC6675E16ADE903EB@EXCHG-BE.marklogic.com>
I certainly dont get it. 
 If you parse a WF XML and then deserialize it, you rarely get byte for byte what you started with.
Take this simple example 


<root       a=   'b'     />


Whats the result?

I do not think it un-reasonable at all that XML-ER processor produce say   

<root a="b"></root>



							


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Noah Mendelsohn [mailto:nrm@arcanedomain.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 2:49 PM
> To: David Carlisle
> Cc: public-xml-er@w3.org
> Subject: Re: tag name state
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/3/2012 1:20 PM, David Carlisle wrote:
> > It would preclude any implementation of xml-er that used any kind of
> > parsing. It restricts you to essentially the kind of fixup that you an
> > do with regular expressions, just keeping the textual document but never
> > parsing it.
> 
> Hmm. There's a something a bit circular about this.
> 
> Certainly your input can't be in the form of somethink like a DOM, or else
> how could it represent just the sorts of things like poorly nested tags
> that are exactly the sorts of things we are trying to fix up. So, I assume
> it's OK to assume that the input is a string of text that may or may not
> prove to be well formed?
> 
> OK, so you're definitely going to run some sort of parse on it, do some
> error checking while you go, and prepare the output as you go. I infer that
> you're interested in the case where your preferred output is, say, a DOM,
> and you're building it as you go. You're losing track of, e.g. whether an
> attribute was single or double quoted.
> 
> No problem. Please look again that the requirement I proposed. It was not
> that you be capable of reserializing the original document. Rather it was:
> 
> "...when XML-ER is used on well formed input to produce (take your pick of
> {DOM, XML-DM, Infoset, text file}), the results should be the same as if a
> (non-XML-ER) tool was used. "
> 
> ..and that's almost surely what you're going to do: you're going to build
> the same DOM you would have if you weren't prepared to do error recovery.
> The fact that, if you tried to re-serialize the DOM you wouldn't remember
> what quoting is used is no problem. That's why I stated the requirement
> that way.
> 
> I think you can do exactly what you want with the requirement as I phrased
> it. Am I missing something?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Noah

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