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Minutes for XML Core WG telcon of 2012 March 7

From: Paul Grosso <paul@paulgrosso.name>
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:52:54 -0600
Message-ID: <4F579266.9050909@paulgrosso.name>
To: public-xml-core-wg@w3.org

Attendees
---------
Glenn
Norm
Paul
Henry
John
Jirka

[6 organizations (8 with proxies) present out of 9]

Regrets
-------
Daniel, proxy to the chair
Mohamed, proxy to the chair
Liam


Absent organizations
--------------------
Innovimax (with regrets, proxy to the chair)
W3C (with regrets)
Daniel Veillard (with regrets, proxy to the chair)


Our next telcon will be March 21.

Note that on this date, North America will be on daylight
time while Europe and the UK will not.  Those calling in
from Europe and the UK will need to call in an hour earlier
local time than usual:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20120321T1130&p1=179


>
> 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
>   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
>   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).
>

Accepted.

>
> 2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.
>
> xml-stylesheet and HTML5
> ------------------------
> Henry took an action to file a bug about xml-stylesheet
> handling.  Done:
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14689
>
> Henry has done a lot more testing and filing of results to date.
>
> ACTION to Henry: File a bug against the HTML5 spec saying that
> it should support styling XML with CSS.

ACTION to Henry continued.

>
> The CSS2 spec says something about styling XML with CSS.
> Henry also notes http://www.w3.org/Style/styling-XML.en.html.
>
> Henry's tests are at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2011/11/ssTests/
> You need to look at the README and README2 files there.
>
>
> issues with the Polyglot draft
> ------------------------------
> Henry sent email with various potential issues at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2011Nov/0037
>
> Polyglot draft: BOM
> -------------------
> We discussed the point about the spec recommending [P1] the use of the 
> UTF-8 BOM.
>
> [P1] http://dev.w3.org/html5/html-xhtml-author-guide/#character-encoding
>
> Henry thinks we converged on this in email on Wednesday 11 January:
> See
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012Jan/0007
>
> Henry: I think we should file an issue against Polyglot about the BOM.
>
> ACTION: Henry to file an issue against Polyglot about the BOM.


ACTION to Henry continued.


>
> Polyglot draft: xml:space and xml:base
> --------------------------------------
> See the minutes at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012Jan/0016
> for the discussion.
>
> ACTION: Henry to draft an issue regarding xml:space and xml:base in
>         the Polyglot draft for WG review.
>


ACTION to Henry continued.


>
> 3.  XML Test Suite.
>
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite
>
> ACTION to Henry:  Construct a test case for the XML test suite
> issues raised by Frans Englich:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/
>


ACTION to Henry continued.


>
> 4.  LEIRIs--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri
>
> We have planned to issue the following spec editions referencing
> LEIRIs (and any outstanding errata):
>
> * XML 1.0 6th Edition (John to be editor)
> * XML 1.1 3rd Edition (John to be editor)
> * XInclude 3rd Edition (Paul to be editor)
>
> but all this is on hold awaiting resolution of IRIbis.
>
>
> 5.  XInclude 1.1--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude
>
> On 2012 February 14, we published
> XInclude 1.1 Requirement and Use Cases
> http://www.w3.org/TR/xinclude-11-requirements/
> summarizing the requirements and use cases for possible
> enhancements to XInclude addressing the issues:
>
> * @xpointer when parse="text"
> * copying attributes from the xinclude element to the root
>  included element
>
> Before producing an XInclude 1.1, we will need an amended
> charter as indicated by Ian at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2011Dec/0014
>
> We should wait to see what if any feedback we get from the
> published requirements and use cases and then, if we want
> to go ahead with an XInclude 1.1, we should look into amending
> our charter.

We did get mostly positive feedback from Chris Lilley at:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-xinclude-comments/2012Feb/0000

>
> ACTION to Norm:  Publicize the XInclude 1.1 Requirement and
> Use Cases WG Note to potentially interested parties (e.g.,
> the DocBook TC and others--would the XProc WG have any
> interest?) and see if you can drum up any feedback.
>


Norm did post something to the DocBook TC:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/201202/msg00001.html


ACTION to Norm continued.



XML Model
---------

Jirka reminded us that ISO published XML Model as an international
standard.  One can buy it at
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=54793

He said that the process is in order to try to allow the ISO version
to be published for free.

We will wait to see if it becomes freely available and then update
our note to reference it.

ACTION to Jirka:  Check with the ISO working group about the
status of making the ISO version free.

>
> paul
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
> [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
> [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012Feb/0002
>
>
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