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Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2011 August 24

From: Grosso, Paul <pgrosso@ptc.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:08:58 -0400
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We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, 
August 24, from
          08:30-09:00 Pacific time aka
          11:30-12:00 Eastern time aka
          15:30-16:00 UTC 
          16:30-17:00 in Ireland and the UK 
          17:30-18:00 in middle (most of) Europe 
on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .

See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.

Regrets from Henry and Daniel.

Agenda
======
1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).


2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.

September schedule of telcons
-----------------------------
Our next telcon is September 7.  Paul sends regrets, Norm will chair.

We will cancel our telcon of September 21 (neither Paul nor Norm can 
make it), so our subsequent telcon will be October 5th.


TPAC week
---------
TPAC will be 31 October through 4 November 2011 in Santa Clara
California.  I think we should plan to have a f2f during this
week: http://www.w3.org/2011/11/TPAC/ - Meeting Overview page.

Registration is now open:
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2011/
The XML Core WG is meeting Thursday and Friday of the TPAC week.

Likely attendance:

Probably will:  Paul, Norm, Henry, Liam
Maybe:  Mohamed
Most likely won't:  John, Daniel, Jirka, Glenn


xml-stylesheet and HTML5
------------------------
Henry started a thread at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2011Jul/0008

In the HTML5 spec, when dealing with the XML prolog, there is
nothing about processing instructions, so it isn't clear that
browsers would pick up the xml-stylesheet PI.

John Cowan said there was another part of the spec that applies
to that process, but Henry hasn't yet followed up on that.

ACTION to Henry:  Research to ensure that the xml-stylesheet PI
is appropriately referenced from HTML5 and/or 3023bis (the XML
media type definition).

Note that 3023bis could say that browsers should reference
Assoc SS and process the SSPI when processing an XML resource.


Extending Xinclude
------------------
Norm sent email on behalf of DocBook at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2011Jul/0013
asking whether we want to consider extending Xinclude.

The key issue is that xincluding content can often cause
duplicate ids, and the question is whether we can define
some kind of fix up.

Henry is skeptical about id fixup, and he considers IDs
as obsolete technology.

Norm doesn't see how scoped identifiers solves his problem.
See http://docbook.org/docs/transclusion-requirements/#uc-5
for a use case.

If we provide some kind of id fixup on xinclude, we could
provide some solutions to some use cases.

See http://www.docbook.org/docs/transclusion/#d6e180 for
some DocBook proposals for id fixup.

We'll plan to think about this some and revisit.


3.  XML 1.0--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-errata

We are creating an XML 1.0 6th Edition and XML 1.1 3rd (or
perhaps 6th) Edition.

ACTION to John:  Update the XML sources for XML 1.0 and 1.1
to reflect any errata and the LEIRI reference.

On hold awaiting resolution of IRIbis.


4.  XML Test Suite.

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite

ACTION to Henry:  Construct a test case for the XML test suite 
issues raised by Frans Englich:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/ 


5.  Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1--see
   http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.0
   and http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.1.


6.  LEIRIs--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri

We had planned to issue the following spec editions referencing LEIRIs:

* XML 1.0 6th Edition
* XML 1.1 3rd Edition
* XInclude 3rd Edition

We continue to wait to see what might happen with IRIbis.


7.  xml:id--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-id


8.  XML Base 2nd Ed--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-base


9.  XLink 1.1--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xlink1.1


10.  XInclude 3rd Ed--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude

We are creating an XInclude 3rd Edition.

ACTION to Paul:  Update the XML sources for Xinclude to reflect 
any errata and the LEIRI reference.

On hold awaiting resolution of IRIbis.


11.  Associating Stylesheets.

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#assoc-ss

AssocSS 2nd Ed is now a Recommendation at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/REC-xml-stylesheet-20101028/


12.  xml-model

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#assoc-schemas

The Second Edition has been published as a WG Note at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/NOTE-xml-model-20110811/


paul

[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2011Aug/0016
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