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Minutes for XML Core WG telcon of 2010 October 20

From: Grosso, Paul <pgrosso@ptc.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:52:01 -0400
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Attendees
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 Glenn 
 Norm
 Paul 
 Liam
 Jirka

[5 organizations (6 with proxies) present out of 10]

Regrets
-------
Simon
Mohamed
Henry
Daniel

Absent organizations
--------------------
Innovimax (with regrets)
Opera (with regrets)
Univ of Edinburgh (with regrets)
John Cowan
Daniel Veillard (with regrets, proxy to the chair)


Due to TPAC on Nov 3, we will CANCEL that call.

Our next telcon will be Nov 17.  No regrets heard.


> 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
>    the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
>    or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).
> 

Accepted.

> 
> 2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.
> 
> TPAC Nov 1-5 in Lyons, France
> -----------------------------
> It now looks like there will be no official XML Core WG
> meeting in Lyons.  Those on the WG who are there are free
> to meet informally, of course.  If you are planning to
> attend, be sure to register.
> 
> Registration is now open; see http://www.w3.org/2010/11/TPAC/
> 
> TAG concern wrt 3023bis, +xml media types and fragids
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Henry sent email about this at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2010Jun/0006
> 
> 3023bis says that the +xml implies that the resource is suitable for
> processing by generic xml processors.  And it says that such xml
> processors should handle fragment ids.  Specifically, handling the
> fragment identifiers in an rdf+xml document is not something that a
> generic xml processor could do.
> 
> The TAG was leaning toward removing the statement from 3023bis that
> says that fragid syntax and semantics is something that any generic
> xml processor can handle in a +xml resource.  Noah sent email and
> Norm has replied.  See the thread at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Jun/thread.html#msg125
> 
> Somewhat related, Henry sent email about XML fragid interpretation at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2010Jun/0025
> 
> Norm and John prefer to allow RDF (and others) to be an exception,
> but the rule is that the default treatment is as specified in
> XPointer Framework.
> 
> Norm and John (among others) weighed in; see the thread at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Jun/thread.html#msg125
> and
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Jul/thread.html#msg0
> 
> Norm's latest (as of July 26, posted July 14) is at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Jul/0020
> 
> Larry replied to Norm's email at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Sep/0044
> in which, among other things, he asks for examples of
> generic XML tools which interpret fragids.
> 
> Discussion continues on www-tag (and at the TAG f2f).
> 

Norm talked to the TAG about this yesterday.
Not sure of the denouement, but he did make a strong
plea that 3023-bis would not be changed to say that
barenames would not be XPointer id pointers in the
general case.

> 
> 3.  XML 1.0--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-errata
> 
> 
> 4.  XML Test Suite.
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Construct a test case for the XML test suite
> issues raised by Frans Englich:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/
> 
> 
> 5.  Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1--see
>    http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.0
>    and http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.1.
> 
> 
> 6.  LEIRIs--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri
> 
> 
> 7.  xml:id--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-id
> 
> 
> 8.  XML Base 2nd Ed--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-base
> 
> 
> 9.  XLink 1.1--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xlink1.1
> 
> 
> 10.  XInclude 3rd Ed--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude
> 
> 
> 11.  Associating Stylesheets.
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#assoc-ss
> 
> AssocSS 2nd Ed was out for review as a PER; announcement:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2010JulSep/0050
> PER draft:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/PER-xml-stylesheet-20100909/
> The review ended last Thursday.
> 
> ACTION to Liam:  Report on the status of the AssocSS 2nd Ed PER
review.
> 

Liam reports that the review has ended with positive responses.

Liam plans to send a transitive request today.  We will plan
to publish on 2010 Oct 28. 

ACTION to Henry:  Generate a REC-ready version of AssocSS 2nd Ed
with a pubdate of 28 October 2010 asap but at least by the 26th.

> 
> 12.  xml-model
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#assoc-schemas
> 
> This has been published as a WG Note at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/NOTE-xml-model-20100415/
> 
> At
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2010Sep/0030
> Jirka indicated the ISO version of XML model is going to DIS.
> It should soon go out for vote as DIS over the next 3-4 months.
> 
> We will plan to update our WG Note to reference the ISO spec
> once it is officially available. We will also update our Note
> to reference the Rec version of AssocSS 2nd Ed when available.
> 
> 
> paul
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
> [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
> [3]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2010Oct/0000
> 
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