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Minutes for XML Core WG telcon of 2010 January 27

From: Grosso, Paul <pgrosso@ptc.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:23:59 -0500
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Attendees
---------
 John
 Glenn
 Norm
 Paul 
 Henry, W3C
 Henry, U of E
 Daniel xx:14

[7 organizations (7 with proxies) present out of 11]

Regrets
------- 
Richard
Jirka

Absent organizations
--------------------
Innovimax
Opera
François Yergeau
Jirka Kosek (with regrets)


> 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
>    the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
>    or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).

Accepted.

> 
> 2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.
> 
> 
> 3.  XML 1.0--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-errata
> 
> 
> 4.  XML Test Suite.
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite
> 
> ACTION to Richard:  Construct a test case for the XML test suite
> issues raised by Frans Englich:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/
> 
> 
> 5.  Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1--see
>    http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.0
>    and http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.1.
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Add David Carlisle's comment at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-names-editor/2009Dec/0003
> to our Namespace PE document.

Done.

> 
> 
> 6.  LEIRIs--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri
> 
> 
> 7.  xml:id
> 
> The xml:id Recommendation is at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/REC-xml-id-20050909/
> 
> John Cowan submitted a proposed erratum at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Jan/0009
> 
> At one point we thought we had Consensus:
> The sentence "A document that uses xml:id attributes
> that have a declared type other than xs:ID will always generate
> xml:id errors" in Appendix D.3 should be deleted.
> 
> But they we reconsidered.  Henry sent further email at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Apr/0048
> 
> We did agree that applying xml:id processing does not have
> any impact on the DTD/XSD validity of the document.
> 
> John re-summarized his thoughts at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009May/0008

John and Henry discussed this on today's telcon.

They had agreement to add HT's qualification to D.2 and
strike the entire sentence from D.3.

ACTION to Henry:  Process an xml:id erratum to add HT's
qualification to D.2 and strike the entire sentence from D.3.

> 
> ---
> 
> Richard pointed out the following note in XML Base
> (just before section 3.1):
> 
>  This specification does not give the xml:base attribute
>  any special status as far as XML validity is concerned.
>  In a valid document the attribute must be declared in
>  the DTD, and similar considerations apply to other schema
>  languages.
> 
> and suggested a similar note should go into xml:id in D.1.

Agreed.

ACTION to Henry: Process an xml:id erratum to add a note in D.1
that the id attribute must be declared in a valid document.

> 
> ---
> 
> There was also some email about some typos for which we (Henry)
> should process an editorial erratum:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Apr/0050
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Process an xml:id erratum to correct the typos; ref
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Apr/0050

ACTION to Henry continued. 

> 
> 
> 8.  XML Base 2nd Ed--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-base
> 
> 
> 9.  XLink 1.1.
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xlink1.1
> 
> The earlier XLink CR was published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/
> 
> The XLink 1.1 LC was published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-xlink11-20080331/
> 
> The LC review period ended 16 May 2008.
> 
> Norm has prepared an updated DoC at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2008/05/xlinklc/
> 
> Paul summarized the open issues at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Apr/0045
> 
> Norm replied at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009May/0009
> 
> ACTION to Norm:  Update the DoC accordingly.
> 
> The latest editor's draft (24 January 2010) is at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/xmlcore/xlink11/Overview.html
> 
> Henry finds the DTD/RelaxNG/XSD fragments throughout the spec unhelpful
> and would like to remove them (leaving them only in the appendices).
> Henry specifically referenced the example immediately preceding 5.3.
> But this was in the CR, so we will probably leave it, but we will
> remove the default for xlink:type.
> 
> We plan to skip CR and going directly to PR.
> 
> Paul drafted a PR transition request at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Mar/0013
> 
> Norm created an updated IR at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/xmlcore/xlink11/ir.html
> 
> ACTION to Norm:  Adding a mention of the test suite at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/03/xlink11-tests to the IR.
> 
> A diff between 1.0 and the latest PR ready draft is at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/xmlcore/xlink11/Overview-diff.html
> 

ACTION to Norm:  Make the latest draft a PR.

ACTION to Norm:  Also produce a diff between the Xlink 1.1 CR and
this latest draft.


> 
> 10.  XInclude 3rd Ed--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude
> 
> 
> 11.  Associating Stylesheets.
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#assoc-ss
> 
> Associating stylesheets with XML version 1.0 is at:
> http://www.w3.org/1999/06/REC-xml-stylesheet-19990629/
> 
> The Errata document is at:
> http://www.w3.org/1999/06/REC-xml-stylesheet-19990629/errata
> 
> We are working toward a PER for AssocSS 2nd Edition.
> 
> We have made our latest editor's draft at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2009/12/xml-stylesheet/
> publicly available for review and announced it in various fora.
> 
> There are already some comments on the comments list at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-stylesheet-
> comments/2009Dec/
> 

The issues list for AssocSS is at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2010/01/disposition.html

ACTION to Henry:  Incorporate some HTML 4 language to address 
the holman-1 issue.

> 
> 12.  xml-model
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#assoc-schemas
> 
> Paul and Jirka (now an invited expert member of the XML Core WG)
> are co-editors of a WG Note.
> 
> An updated (2010 Jan 13) internal editor's draft is available at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2010/01/xml-model/
> 
> Norm has sent in a few comments.
> 
> ACTION to others in the WG:  Review and comment on the xml-model draft
> at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2010/01/xml-model/

We had some discussion that the "type" pseudo-attribute isn't good
enough for determining the language of the schema, and that we should 
add an attribute to aid this determination.

We have CONSENSUS to put this into public space and request comments on it.

ACTION to Paul:  Put our latest draft into public space.

ACTION to Paul:  Announce the availability of the publicly available draft
to W3C and solicit comments.

ACTION to Henry:  Announce the availability of the publicly available draft
to various public fora and solicit comments.

ACTION to Jirka:  Ensure that SC34 is aware of the public draft and help
them review it and convey their comments back to us.

 
> paul
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
> [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
> [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2010Jan/0007
> 
> 
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