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Re: Minutes for XML Core WG telcon of 2008 July 16

From: Konrad Lanz <Konrad.Lanz@iaik.tugraz.at>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:39:59 +0200
Message-ID: <487E164F.6020909@iaik.tugraz.at>
To: Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>
CC: public-xml-core-wg@w3.org
Hi Norm,

please accept my late regrets.
I'm at the XMLSec WG F2F in Barcelona and forgot to dial in.

Konrad

Norman Walsh schrieb:
> | We had an XML Core WG phone call on Wednesday, July 16
>
> Present: Norm, Henry, Daniel, Glenn
> Regrets: Paul
>
> | Agenda
> | ======
> | 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
> |    the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
> |    or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).
>
> Accepted.
>
> | 2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.
> |
> | October Technical Plenary
> | -------------------------
> | The next Technical Plenary is scheduled for October in Cannes:
> | http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/Overview.html
> | We have tentatively decided to meet there.
> |
> | The schedule is at: http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/Schedule.html
> | XML Core meets Monday and Tuesday.
> |
> | Registration for the October TPAC2008: Combined Technical 
> | Plenary and Advisory Committee Meeting is now open at 
> | http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2008/. 
> | Registration will close on 28 September, but the discount 
> | rate for hotel rooms will expire as of 8 September 2008.
> |
> | Probable attendees:  Henry, Norm, Richard
> | Quite unlikely:  Glenn, Francois
> | Uncertain:  Konrad (but unlikely), John, Daniel, Paul
>
> Norm is considering not going to the Plenary.
>
> | 3.  C14N 1.1
> |
> | See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#c14n1.1
> |
> | The C14N 1.1 Recommendation has been published at
> | http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-c14n11-20080502/
>
> Nothing new to report.
>
> | 4.  XML 1.0
> |
> | See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-errata
> |
> | The XML 1.0 5th Edition PER has been published at
> |  http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PER-xml-20080205/
> |
> | The PER period ended 16 May 2008. 
> |
> | We need to have at least three implementations that 
> | pass the test suite for each of the errata that have 
> | been newly applied to the 5th Edition. 
> |
> | A preliminary implementation report is at
> | http://www.w3.org/XML/2008/01/xml10-5e-implementation
> |
> | ACTION to Richard, Henry:  Add a test to the XML 1.0 5th Ed 
> | Test Suite about version=1.7 documents.
> |
> | A preliminary implementation report is at
> | http://www.w3.org/XML/2008/01/xml10-5e-implementation
> |
> | ACTION to DV:  Give update on status for implementing 
> | XML 1.0 5th Edition.
>
> Daniel is still trying to find the time.
>
> | ACTION to Glenn:  Check with Apache folks on status of
> | implementing XML 1.0 5th Edition.
>
> Glenn reports that there are any requests coming through the Apache
> hierarchy for support. So they're waiting to see if someone is going
> to place that requirement on Xerces.
>
> Henry will poke around in the I18N community looking for someone to
> place that requirement.
>
> Norm wonders about the future, but I guess we won't get to to REC
> before we have implementations, so maybe the risk (aside from the
> delay) is low.
>
> Glenn wonders if there are other potential implementations. It would
> be nice to have a major vendor parser. Maybe Woodstox?
>
> Henry notes that the other obvious possibility is a declared opponent.
> Elliotte Rusty Harold is known to be opposed.
>
> | 5.  XML 1.1
> |
> | See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml1.1
> |
> | XML 1.1 2nd Edition published 2006 August 16:
> |
> |  Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.1 (Second Edition)
> |  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml11-20060816
>
> Nothing to report.
>
> | 6.  XML Test Suite.
> |
> | See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite
> |
> | Henry/Richard discussed some test suite issues raised by Frans Englich:
> | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/ 
> |
> | ACTION to Richard:  Construct a test case for the XML test suite 
> | issues raised by Frans Englich:
> | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/ 
>
> Nothing to report.
>
> | 7.  Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1
> |
> | See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.0 and
> | http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.1.
> |
> | 2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:
> |
> |  Namespaces in XML 1.0 (Second Edition)
> |  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names-20060816
> |
> |  Namespaces in XML 1.1 (Second Edition)
> |  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names11-20060816
> |
> | Richard has partially updated the NS PE doc at
> | http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata.html
> |
> | ACTION to Richard:  Fill in proposed resolutions for NPE27-30.
>
> Nothing to report.
>
> | 8.  LEIRIs
> |
> | See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri
> |
> | Paul's summary of what comes next spec-by-spec is at
> | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0045
> |
> | Martin's latest IRI draft (defining LEIRIs in section 7) has
> | expired; a copy is at 
> | http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-duerst-iri-bis-02
> |
> | A summary of what specs need to be revised to reference LEIRIs is at
> | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0045
> |
> | ACTION to Henry:  Do some pinging about the schedule of IRI bis
> | pointing out that having the IRI-bis draft expired is a serious 
> | problem for us.
>
> Henry reports that there is a visible RFC draft again. It's on the
> agenda for I18N core to discuss as a matter of business. That's the
> best we can do at this point:
>
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2008JulSep/0000.html
>
> | 9.  XML Base 2nd Edition 2nd PER
> |
> | See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-base
> |
> | The (second) XML Base (Second Edition) PER has been published at
> | http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PER-xmlbase-20080320/
> | and announced at
> | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2008JanMar/0112
> |
> | The XML Base PER review period ended 30 June 2008.
> |
> | We have some comments in the comments list:
> | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2008AprJun/
> | 0003
> | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2008AprJun/
> | 0011
> | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2008AprJun/
> | 0012
> |
> | We discussed the XHTML WG comment at
> | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2008AprJun/
> | 0011
> | a bit.
> |
> | The IRI-bis does allow x00-1F in LEIRIs, but such LEIRIs cannot
> | be expressed in an XML document.  The set of LEIRIs that can be
> | expressed in an XML document is identical to what was always
> | allowed in XML documents.  See, for example:
> | http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlbase/#escaping
> | in XML Base 1.0.  What we have in XML Base 1.1 is identical to
> | what we allow in XML Base 1.0.
> |
> | ACTION to Norm: Respond to 
> | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2008AprJun/
> | 0011
> | explaining ourselves and suggesting the additional of a
> | clarificatory sentence.
>
> Norm did reply: 
>
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2008JulSep/0000.html
>
> Nothing has come back from Steven so far.
>
> ACTION: Richard to make the improvements we agreed to make to XML Base, namely
> clarify the meaning of C0 controls and possibly add an example that uses an IRI.
>
> | ACTION to Richard:  Review and suggest a response to
> | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2008AprJun/
> | 0003
> | and develop a DoC document.
> |
> | 10.  XLink 1.1.
> |
> | See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xlink1.1
> |
> | The earlier XLink CR was published at
> | http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/ 
> |
> | The XLink 1.1 LC was published at
> | http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-xlink11-20080331/
> | and announced at
> | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Apr/0006
> |
> | The LC review period ended 16 May 2008.
> |
> | Norm has prepared a DoC at 
> | http://www.w3.org/XML/2008/05/xlinklc/
> |
> | ACTION to Henry:  Continue to get the XSD for
> | XLink at an accessible URI.
>
> Henry has made some progress, but needs more work.
>
> There's an open question about whether the XSD/DTD should default the
> xlink:type attribute value. None of this effects our last call because
> they're not normative.
>
> The discussion is now in email on the Core WG list.
>
> | John asked whether we should have two schemas, one for
> | each of our conformance levels.
> |
> | ACTION to Henry, John:  Think about having a basic level
> | conformance XSD for XLink.
> |
> | Paul asks us to consider skipping CR and going directly to PR.
> |
> | ACTION to Henry:  Review the history and make a recommendation
> | as to whether we should skip CR and go directly to PR.
> |
> | Henry raised a question about the sample schemas at
> | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Jul/0005
>
> Actions continue.
>
> | 11.  XInclude 3rd Edition
> |
> | See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude
> |
> | XInclude 2nd Edition is at:
> | http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xinclude-20061115
> |
> | See http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude for
> | LEIRI-related changes for the 3rd Edition.
> |
> | ACTION to Daniel: Produce a PER-ready draft of XInclude 3rd Ed
> | with appropriate references to the IRI RFC for LEIRIs.
>
> Action continues, Daniel will try to get it finished soon.
>
> | [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
> | [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
> | [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Jul/0001
>
> 12. Any other business?
>
> None heard.
> Adjourned.
>                                         Be seeing you,
>                                           norm
>
>   




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