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Minutes for XML Core WG telcon of 2008 January 30

From: Grosso, Paul <pgrosso@ptc.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:57:32 -0500
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Attendees
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John  xx:20
Glenn
Paul 
Norm
Richard
Henry 

[6 organizations (7 with proxies) present out of 9]

Regrets
------- 
Daniel, proxy to the chair


Absent organizations
--------------------
A-SIT
Daniel Veillard (with regrets, proxy to the chair)
François Yergeau


> 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
>    the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
>    or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).

Accepted.

> 
> 2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.
> 
> OASIS has announced another XRI document for public review:
> 
> Extensible Resource Identifier (XRI) Resolution Version 2.0
> 
> The public review starts today, 3 December 2007, and ends 
> 1 February 2008.
> 
> More non-normative information about the specification and 
> the technical committee may be found at the public home page 
> of the TC at 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=xri. 
> 
> The specification document and related files are available here:
> 
> Editable Source:
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/xri/2.0/specs/cd02/xri-resolution-V2.0-cd-02.doc
> 
> PDF:
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/xri/2.0/specs/cd02/xri-resolution-V2.0-cd-02.pdf
> 
> HTML:
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/xri/2.0/specs/cd02/xri-resolution-V2.0-cd-02.html
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Review this for XML Core.

Henry has reviewed it and has a draft response.  The TAG
may also review it.

ACTION to Henry:  Draft a few paragraphs for the XML Core WG
response today and send to the XML Core WG list.

ACTION to Paul:  Send in the WG response to OASIS on Friday.

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A new XML Security Specifications WG has an early draft 
charter at
http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/wiki/charter
How should they include our charter responsibility for 
canonicalization?

The XML Core WG would prefer that the XSS WG take over all
responsibility for C14N from the XML Core WG.

ACTION to Henry:  Let appropriate folks know that the 
XML Core WG would prefer that the XSS WG take over all
responsibility for C14N from the XML Core WG.

> 
> 3.  C14N 
> 
> The C14N 1.1 Candidate Recommendation is published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/CR-xml-c14n11-20070621
> 
> Known Issues with Canonical XML 1.0 (C14N/1.0) WG Note 
> has been published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/NOTE-C14N-issues-20061220/
> 
> Using XML Digital Signatures in the 2006 XML Environment 
> WG Note has been published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/NOTE-DSig-usage-20061220/
> 
> An almost PR-ready version of C14N 1.1 is at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2007/12/PR-xml-c14n11-20071211/
> and we had a successful PR transition telcon last week.
> 
> We are currently expecting 2008 January 29 (tomorrow) 
> for a publication date.

The C14N 1.1 PR has been published:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PR-xml-c14n11-20080129/

> 
> 4.  XML 1.0 5th Edition
> 
> We have updated PER-ready drafts and Errata documents, and Paul
> sent in the PER transition request (which has pointers to all
> relevant documents) at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Jan/0049
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Make sure TimBL is aware of this.
> 
> We have a tentative PER telcon date of:
>   Thursday, January 31, 2008
>   9:00AM to 10:30AM US/Eastern
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Secure the XML 1.0 5th Edition PER telcon schedule.

DONE, the telcon will, in fact, be tomorrow morning
as mentioned above.

Our original message announcing the possibility of XML 1.0 5th Ed is at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-blueberry-comments/2007Oct/0000

Henry will have a draft call for review for tomorrow's telcon.

ACTION to Henry (by Feb 5):  Either create some XML 1.0 5th Ed 
specific tests OR change the IR at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2008/01/xml10-5e-implementation.html
to say "*will be* available".

Note that there will be some tests currently in the test suite
that failed for the 4th Ed that will now succeed for the 5th.

> 
> 5.  XML 1.0/1.1 4th/2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:
> 
>  Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.0 (Fourth Edition)
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-20060816
> 
>  Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.1 (Second Edition)
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml11-20060816
> 
> Henry/Richard discussed the test suite issues raised by Frans Englich:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/ 
> 
> These need to be resolved. 
> 
> Richard reports that the 2005 issue has been resolved in the 
> latest draft. 
> 
> The one from 2006, character references with numbers with 
> dozens of digits, may not be. 
> 
> ACTION: Richard to construct a test case for these issues.
> 

At some point in the future (e.g., six months after XML 1.0 5th
Edition is a Recommendation) we might consider deprecating XML 1.1.

> 
> 6. Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1 2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:
> 
>  Namespaces in XML 1.0 (Second Edition)
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names-20060816
> 
>  Namespaces in XML 1.1 (Second Edition)
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names11-20060816
> 
> Richard has recorded Anne's issue/proposed resolution at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata#NPE27
> 
> ACTION to Richard:  Look into Anne's (two) comments at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-names-editor/2007Oct/
> 
> 
> 7.  LEIRIs
> 
> Martin's latest IRI draft (defining LEIRIs in section 7) is at 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-duerst-iri-bis-02.txt
> 
> Martin's latest email is at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0042
> 
> Paul's summary of what comes next spec-by-spec is at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0045
> 
> 
> 8.  XML Base 2nd Edition 2nd PER
> 
> The (Second Edition) XML Base PER has been published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/PER-xmlbase-20061220/ 
> 
> Richard has produced another PER-ready draft of XML Base 
> referencing LEIRIs at:
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/09/xmlbase-2e/
> 
> We need to produce another PER-ready draft of XML Base 
> referencing LEIRIs.
> 
> Reference:
>  Martin's latest IRI draft (defining LEIRIs in section 7) is at 
>  http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-duerst-iri-bis-02.txt

Richard has updated the version at 
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/09/xmlbase-2e/
The patent disclosure paragraph has been amended in accord 
with Ian's mail, and the reference to RFC 3987 now has a 
note saying that it will be replaced by the real thing when 
we go to Rec.

We will plan to publish this as a second PER in the March
timeframe with the understanding it can't go to Rec until 
the IRI RFC is republished.

> 
> 9.  XLink update.
> 
> The XLink CR was published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/ 
> 
> The latest almost PR-ready XLink draft is at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/xmlcore/xlink11/
> 
> Norm posted a DoC at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/10/xlink11-doc.html
> 
> Paul wrote a SECOND draft PR request at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Dec/0059
> 
> We decided the next step would be another LC.
> 
> LEIRI reference:
>  Section 5.4: 
> 
>  replace para starting:
> 
>   The value of the href attribute is an XML resource identifer...
> 
>  with:
> 
>   The value of the href attribute is a LEIRI [ref].
> 
>  and then delete subsection 5.4.1 but move the para about 
>  relative references up into 5.4.
> 
> ACTION to Norm:  Suggest any other appropriate changes to XLink 1.1.
> 
> ACTION to Norm:  Produce diff/review version.
> 
> ACTION to Norm: Produce a LC-ready draft of XLink 1.1 with 
> a reference to the IRI RFC for LEIRIs due 2008 February 13.
> 
> 
> 10.  XInclude 3rd Edition
> 
> XInclude 2nd Edition is at:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xinclude-20061115
> 
> LEIRI-related changes for the 3rd Edition:
> 
> 3.1, href attribute is a LEIRI
> 
> See also 4.1.1 (details TBD) which can't reference XML 1.1
> since we don't define XML Resource Identifiers in XML 1.1.
> Just replace that para with the "They are LEIRIs" para.
> 
> See also
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0007
> for more details on the necessary changes.
> 
> ACTION to Daniel: Produce a PER-ready draft of XInclude 3rd Ed
> with appropriate references to the IRI RFC for LEIRIs.
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
> [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
> [3] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Jan/0040
> 
> 
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