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Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2008 February 27

From: Grosso, Paul <pgrosso@ptc.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:25:43 -0500
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We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, 
February 13, from
          08:00-09:00 Pacific time aka
          11:00-12:00 Eastern time aka
          15:00-16:00 UTC
          16:00-17:00 in Ireland and the UK
          17:00-18:00 in middle (most of) Europe
on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .

See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.

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By way of ADVANCED NOTICE, our upcoming telcons of March 12 
and 26 will occur one hour earlier local time for partipants 
in the UK and Europe due to a ridiculously early switch to DST 
on the part of those in North America.

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Agenda
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1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).


2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.

CSS has replied to a comment of ours.  Our comment is at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2006Sep/0045
and the response is at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2008Feb/0061

Paul researched the history and resolution of these comments at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Feb/0031
and believes our comments have been addressed.

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CURIEs et al.
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The XHTML2 Working Group plans to take CURIE Syntax 1.0 at:
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-curie-20080122/ to Last Call.

Both Norm and Henry have reviewed it on the Tag list:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2008Feb/0050
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2008Feb/0053

XML would have to change for CURIEs to do what they want to do.

The key issue with CURIEs is the restriction on name start
characters for the value of ids (which is now an NCName).

Henry asks us to consider changing the type of an id attribute
from NCName to NMTOKEN.

Norm sent his thoughts on redefining QNames at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Feb/0030

Henry has done some research on the use of non-names for ids
on the web.


3.  C14N 

The C14N 1.1 PR has been published:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PR-xml-c14n11-20080129/

Known Issues with Canonical XML 1.0 (C14N/1.0) WG Note 
has been published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/NOTE-C14N-issues-20061220/

Using XML Digital Signatures in the 2006 XML Environment 
WG Note has been published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/NOTE-DSig-usage-20061220/


4.  XML 1.0 5th Edition

The XML 1.0 5th Edition PER has been published at
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PER-xml-20080205/


5.  XML 1.0/1.1 4th/2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:

 Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.0 (Fourth Edition)
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-20060816

 Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.1 (Second Edition)
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml11-20060816

Henry/Richard discussed the test suite issues raised by Frans Englich:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/ 

These need to be resolved. 

Richard reports that the 2005 issue has been resolved in the 
latest draft. 

The one from 2006, character references with numbers with 
dozens of digits, may not be. 

ACTION: Richard to construct a test case for these issues.

At some point in the future (e.g., six months after XML 1.0 5th
Edition is a Recommendation) we might consider deprecating XML 1.1.


6. Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1 2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:

 Namespaces in XML 1.0 (Second Edition)
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names-20060816

 Namespaces in XML 1.1 (Second Edition)
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names11-20060816

Richard has recorded Anne's issue/proposed resolution at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata#NPE27

ACTION to Richard:  Look into Anne's (two) comments at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-names-editor/2007Oct/

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We discussed processing an erratum to NS 1.0 that adds the 
ability to undeclare a namespace prefix in NS 1.0.

We could probably make NS 1.0 a copy of NS 1.1 with appropriate
minor changes.


7.  LEIRIs

Martin's latest IRI draft (defining LEIRIs in section 7) is at 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-duerst-iri-bis-02.txt

Martin's latest email is at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0042

Paul's summary of what comes next spec-by-spec is at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0045


8.  XML Base 2nd Edition 2nd PER

The (Second Edition) XML Base PER has been published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/PER-xmlbase-20061220/ 

Richard has produced a PER-ready draft of XML Base at:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/09/xmlbase-2e/

We will plan to publish this as a second PER in the March
timeframe with the understanding it can't go to Rec until 
the IRI RFC is republished.


9.  XLink update.

The XLink CR was published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/ 

The latest almost PR-ready XLink draft is at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/xmlcore/xlink11/

Norm posted a DoC at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/10/xlink11-doc.html

Paul wrote a SECOND draft PR request at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Dec/0059

We decided the next step would be another LC.

LEIRI reference:
 Section 5.4: 

 replace para starting:

  The value of the href attribute is an XML resource identifer...

 with:

  The value of the href attribute is a LEIRI [ref].

 and then delete subsection 5.4.1 but move the para about 
 relative references up into 5.4.

ACTION to Norm:  Suggest any other appropriate changes to XLink 1.1.

ACTION to Norm:  Produce diff/review version.

ACTION to Norm: Produce a LC-ready draft of XLink 1.1 with 
a reference to the IRI RFC for LEIRIs due 2008 February 13.


10.  XInclude 3rd Edition

XInclude 2nd Edition is at:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xinclude-20061115

LEIRI-related changes for the 3rd Edition:

3.1, href attribute is a LEIRI

See also 4.1.1 (details TBD) which can't reference XML 1.1
since we don't define XML Resource Identifiers in XML 1.1.
Just replace that para with the "They are LEIRIs" para.

See also
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0007
for more details on the necessary changes.

ACTION to Daniel: Produce a PER-ready draft of XInclude 3rd Ed
with appropriate references to the IRI RFC for LEIRIs.


[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Feb/0023
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