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RE: NS 1.0 issue with URI vrs IRI (versus LEIRI) [was: Boeing XRI Use Cases]

From: Grosso, Paul <pgrosso@ptc.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:50:02 -0400
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To: <public-xml-core-wg@w3.org>

I note at [1] we appear to have considered something similar to this
before and decided that namespace names in NS 1.0 are not IRIs, yet
we apparently allow IRIs in NS 1.1.

Sounds like we should revisit this issue.

paul


[1]
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata.html#npe20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-xml-core-wg-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:public-xml-core-wg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Grosso, Paul
> Sent: Wednesday, 2008 August 06 10:14
> To: public-xml-core-wg@w3.org
> Subject: NS 1.0 issue with URI vrs IRI (versus LEIRI) [was: 
> Boeing XRI Use Cases]
> 
> 
> Looks like we might want to consider this point when
> we issue the next edition of Namespaces 1.0.
> 
> paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-tag-request@w3.org On Behalf Of Julian Reschke
> Sent: Wednesday, 2008 August 06 2:01
> To: noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
> Cc: John Bradley; Booth, David (HP Software - Boston); Henry S.
> Thompson; www-tag@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Boeing XRI Use Cases
> 
> 
> noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com wrote:
> > John Bradely writes:
> > 
> >> A IRI is NOT a URI,  it would be WRONG to use a IRI in an XML 
> >> document for name-spacing.
> >>
> >> The XML specs are clear and unambiguous use a URI.
> > 
> > Well, they do seem to me to be clear, but I read them 
> differently than
> you 
> > do I'm afraid ;-).  From the XML Namespaces 1.1 Recommendation [1]:
> > 
> > "Abstract: XML namespaces provide a simple method for qualifying
> element 
> > and attribute names used in Extensible Markup Language documents by 
> > associating them with namespaces identified by IRI references."
> > 
> > and indeed the formal definition [2] says:
> > 
> > "[Definition: An XML namespace is identified by an IRI reference 
> > [RFC3987]; element and attribute names may be placed in an XML
> namespace 
> > using the mechanisms described in this specification. ]"
> > ...
> 
> But <http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-names11/> is the namespaces 
> specification 
> for XML 1.1, right? <http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-names> (from the same 
> date) still refers to RFC 3986 (URI).
> 
> BR, Julian
> 
> 
> 
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