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Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2006 May 17

From: Grosso, Paul <pgrosso@ptc.com>
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 07:28:05 -0400
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We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, 
May 17, from
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on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .

See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.


Agenda
======
1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).


2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.

DV sends regrets for May 17, 24.

Lew sends regrets for May 17, 24.

HT sends regrets for May 17.

----

John Cowan says our defn of IRIs in XLink and soon to
be in XML differs from the defn in 3987. 

Richard says we're not saying that.  We are defining
something new called XML Resource Identifiers that, 
after escaping, are IRIs. 

John Cowan then worried about XML Schema's anyURI defn
which mentioned "internationalized resource identifiers"
(lower case).

ACTION to John:  Review the specs to see if there remain
any problems.


3.  C14N 

Glenn created an editor's draft of C14N 1.1 which is up at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/02/WD-xml-c14n11

We had some discussion at the f2f--see
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/02/xml-f2f-20060302-minutes.htm#c14n

At the f2f, we decided to produce a W3C WG Note documenting 
the current situation and issues and problems.

Thomas wrote an outline of this note at
http://www.w3.org/2006/04/c14n-note

ACTION to Thomas:  Produce a first editors draft of the 
C14N note by Monday, June 5th.

Glenn sent out an updated draft now at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/05/WD-xml-c14n11-20060510.html

We discussed the xml:base wording in 2.4.  Richard provided a 
suggested solution at:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006May/0014


4.  xml:base, [baseURI], and IRIs.

At the f2f, we had CONSENSUS to change the 
xml:base spec to make it clear we allow IRIs as the 
value of xml:base. We also want to allow IRIs in the 
infoset [baseURI] information item.

One paragraph in the Infoset says the baseURI may
have unescaped characters, but elsewhere it says
the baseURI follows XML Base which points to RFC 2396.
If we change XML Base, we shouldn't have to change
the Infoset spec much.


5.  XLink update.

XLink is now in CR--published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/ 

Norm sent some email about his test suite at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Mar/0066


6. XML errata.  The published 1.0 errata document is [8], the
   published 1.1 errata document is [9], and the new (public)
   Potential Errata (PE) document is [7]. 

Francois has developed almost-ready editor's drafts
of both XML 1.0 4th Ed and XML 1.1 2nd Ed at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/05/xml10-4e/PER-xml-2006mmdd-review.htm
l 
and
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/05/xml11-2e/PER-xml11-2006mmdd-review.h
tml
There are also non-diff XHTML versions (remove "-review") and 
XML versions, with all ancillary files in place to render them. 

The implementations report URLs still point to 404s, pending 
resolution. Francois added language for the AC review in the Status, 
but we still need to decide on an end date for the review.

ACTION to Henry:  Check on what we can do here regarding
Implementation Reports for XML 1.x PERs.  Note also Paul's
comments on this at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006May/0010

ACTION to Henry:  Set up the necessary WBS and send the
URL to Francois for inclusion in the SOTD.


7. Namespaces in XML.

Richard has PER-ready editor's drafts of both 1.0 and 1.1
new editions:

http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/04/xml-names-2e/xml-names-10-2e.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/04/xml-names-2e/xml-names-11-2e.html

There are also diff versions:

http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/04/xml-names-2e/xml-names-10-2e-diff.ht
ml
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/04/xml-names-2e/xml-names-11-2e-diff.ht
ml

Richard requests that someone review the new versions.

ACTION to Richard (after this week's telcon):  Apply the
"more cases of abusing the xml and xmlns prefix" PE to 
the 2 Errata documents.


8. Xinclude Rec was published 2004 December 30 at:
   http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-xinclude-20041220/

Our XInclude potential errata document is at:
http://www.w3.org/XML/2005/01/proposed-xinclude-errata

Daniel has updated the Errata document at
http://www.w3.org/2004/12/xinclude-errata 

Daniel has drafted XInclude 2nd Edition with all 
the errata (including the IRI one) applied. Result is 
http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/04/XInclude/REC-xinclude-20060423.html
with a diff version at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/04/XInclude/REC-xinclude-20060423-review.html

ACTION to Francois:  Review section 4.1.1 at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/04/XInclude/REC-xinclude-20060423-review.html
#IRIs
and see if it references the XML spec as we intended.

Still need to handle errata document for the new edition
and other front matter.


9.  Associating stylesheets--awaiting TAG action.

Henry reports that the HTML CG has been discussing this
for a while.  They are developing a draft statement of
the issue, and Chris Lilley will raise this at the XML CG.

Chris started the discussion on the XML CG list--see
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-cg/2005Jul/thread.html#15
The XML CG will continue to discuss it for a while.


10.  Henry raises that RFC 3023 is out of date and the draft
replacement has expired.  

Chris has gotten the source and made the changes.

There is a draft at
http://www.w3.org/2006/02/son-of-3023/draft-murata-kohn-lilley-xml-02.tx
t
that can be reviewed now with comments sent to the XML Core
mailing list and/or Chris Lilley.

Chris planned to open it up for public review April 26th, 
but there is of yet no updated info on this.

When 3023bis becomes a reality, we might have some
specs that need updating for the reference, but we
don't expect any major changes.

Paul sent some comments on 3023bis to the XML CG at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-cg/2006Apr/0026


[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006May/0015
[7]
http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/02/proposed-xml10-3e-and-xml11-errata.html
[8] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V10-3e-errata
[9] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V11-1e-errata
[11] http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-xhtml-rdfa-primer-20060310/ 
[12] http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-xhtml-rdfa-primer-20060310/#id69192 
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