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Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2006 August 30

From: Grosso, Paul <pgrosso@ptc.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:30:17 -0400
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We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, 
August 30, from
          08:00-09:00 Pacific time aka
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          15:00-16:00 UTC
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on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .

See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.


Agenda
======
1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).

Leonid sends regrets for August 30 through September 13.


2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.


3.  C14N 

We have three C14N documents all of which we want to
approve for initial publication during this week's telcon.

---

The latest version of the C14N WG note documenting 
the current situation and issues and problems is at
http://www.w3.org/2006/04/c14n-note/c14n-note.html

---

The latest version of the separate "how to use XML Signature 
today" WG note is at
http://www.w3.org/2006/04/c14n-note/dsig2006-note.html

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The latest editor's draft of C14N 1.1 is at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/05/WD-xml-c14n11-20060510.html

Richard replied to Konrad's email, esp
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Jul/0022
as amended by
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Jul/0023
at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Aug/0032
saying that it looked good to him, but it will be important
to have a test suite testing all the various cases.

Richard thinks the "diff markup" of 3986 is enlightening
and should actually appear in the spec.

Thomas expresses concerns about referencing 3986 instead
of 2396, since dsig references 2396.

Richard, Konrad, and I went through this.  The conclusion was that
consistency between c14n and xml:base is paramount, and more
critical than consistency between c14n and xml signature in terms 
of what spec is referenced.

The proposal is, hence, to leave the normative text and references
of c14n 1.1 as is for a first public working draft, but to add a
note in the "status of this document" section that says that the
section on xml:base is expected to evolve along with the group's
work on that recommendation.


4.  xml:base, [baseURI], and IRIs.

At the f2f, we had CONSENSUS to change the 
xml:base spec to make it clear we allow IRIs as the 
value of xml:base. We also want to allow IRIs in the 
infoset [baseURI] information item.

One paragraph in the Infoset says the baseURI may
have unescaped characters, but elsewhere it says
the baseURI follows XML Base which points to RFC 2396.
If we change XML Base, we shouldn't have to change
the Infoset spec much.

We need to think about incorporation of 3986 and 3987.

Richard kindly volunteered to be the editor of
XML Base 2nd Edition.


5.  XLink update.

XLink is now in CR--published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/ 

Norm sent some email about his test suite at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Mar/0066

Henry has put up Norm's test suite and code, referenced at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/03/xlink11-tests
Norm's tool itself at
http://www.w3.org/2006/08/showxlinks/showxlinks
is member only.

Henry is looking into updating the XBRL code to be
an XLink 1.1 implementation.  Status?

Paul wrote a draft PR request at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Jul/0001

ACTION to Norm:  Create an XLink DoC.

ACTION to Norm:  Post to the WG mailing list something to
show that any valid XLink 1.1 document can be programmatically 
converted into an equivalent XLink 1.0 document.

ACTION to Norm:  Provide a few more tests for the test suite.


6. XML 1.0/1.1 4th/2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:

 Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.0 (Fourth Edition)
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-20060816

 Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.1 (Second Edition)
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml11-20060816


7. Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1 2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:

 Namespaces in XML 1.0 (Second Edition)
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names-20060816

 Namespaces in XML 1.1 (Second Edition)
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names11-20060816

ACTION to Richard:  Record Anne's issue/proposed resolution
in the Namespace PE document.


8. Xinclude Rec was published 2004 December 30 at:
   http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-xinclude-20041220/

Our XInclude potential errata document is at:
http://www.w3.org/XML/2005/01/proposed-xinclude-errata

Daniel has updated the Errata document at
http://www.w3.org/2004/12/xinclude-errata 

Daniel has drafted XInclude 2nd Edition with all 
the errata (including the IRI one) applied. Result is 
http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/04/XInclude/REC-xinclude-20060423.html
with a diff version at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/04/XInclude/REC-xinclude-20060423-review.html

Still need to handle errata document for the new edition
and other front matter.

Paul sent an UPDATED draft PER request at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Aug/0039

DV reports that there are a few changes in the XInlude 
errata that could benefit from a test suite. 
PEX1, PEX6 and PEX11 could affect conformance and we should
add test cases to the test suite for these situations.  DV's
email at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Aug/0033
outlines such tests.

ACTION to DV:  Add the tests suggested in the email to the test 
suite at http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2001/XInclude-Test-Suite/
and updated http://www.w3.org/XML/Test/XInclude/ also.


9.  Associating stylesheets--awaiting TAG action.

Henry reports that the HTML CG has been discussing this
for a while.  They are developing a draft statement of
the issue, and Chris Lilley will raise this at the XML CG.

Chris started the discussion on the XML CG list--see
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-cg/2005Jul/thread.html#15
The XML CG will continue to discuss it for a while.


10.  Henry raises that RFC 3023 is out of date and the draft
replacement has expired.  

Chris has gotten the source and made the changes.

There is a draft at
http://www.w3.org/2006/02/son-of-3023/draft-murata-kohn-lilley-xml-02.tx
t
that can be reviewed now with comments sent to the XML Core
mailing list and/or Chris Lilley.

Paul sent some comments on 3023bis to the XML CG at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-cg/2006Apr/0026

Henry says Chris is going to take the XML CG input outlined at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-cg/2006Apr/0019
and produce another draft.

Chris and Henry also are backing "xpointer scheme" down 
from "registered" to "pending" in the registry.

We will now await a new draft from Chris.

When 3023bis becomes a reality, we might have some
specs that need updating for the reference, but we
don't expect any major changes.


[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Aug/0035
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