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Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2006 April 26

From: Grosso, Paul <pgrosso@ptc.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:43:33 -0400
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We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, 
April 26, from
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on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .

See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.


Agenda
======
1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).


2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.

Henry has updated the XML Namespace RDDL document at
http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace

[Item closed.]


3.  C14N 

Glenn created an editor's draft of C14N 1.1 which is up at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/02/WD-xml-c14n11

We had some discussion at the f2f--see
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/02/xml-f2f-20060302-minutes.htm#c14n

At the f2f, we decided to produce a W3C WG Note documenting 
the current situation and issues and problems.

Thomas posted his f2f notes at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Mar/0026

ACTION to Thomas:  Generate a draft of the Note.

After a discussion of how we might be able to
handle xml:base in C14N, Glenn made a pass at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Apr/att-0009/WD-xml-c14n11-20060409.html

Jose made some comments at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Apr/0011

Neither Glenn nor Jose were on last week's call
to discuss this.

Konrad asked about what needs to happen with digsig.

ACTION to Konrad:  Write up the new wrinkle with 4.3.1 in digsig
where something is only applied to the signed info and references 
would need to have an explicit change to something. [the scribe
didn't get the details, but Konrad will send email with details].


4.  xml:base, [baseURI], and IRIs.

At the f2f, we had CONSENSUS to change the 
xml:base spec to make it clear we allow IRIs as the 
value of xml:base. We also want to allow IRIs in the 
infoset [baseURI] information item.

One paragraph in the Infoset says the baseURI may
have unescaped characters, but elsewhere it says
the baseURI follows XML Base which points to RFC 2396.
If we change XML Base, we shouldn't have to change
the Infoset spec much.


5.  XLink update.

XLink is now in CR--published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/ 

Norm sent some email about his test suite at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Mar/0066


6. XML errata.  The published 1.0 errata document is [8], the
   published 1.1 errata document is [9], and the new (public)
   Potential Errata (PE) document is [7]. 

Re. PE 148, Henry posted a version for 1.1 at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/02/xml11-20060222.xml 

ACTION to Francois:  Merge the mustifications into XML 1.0.

We resolved some other PE at the f2f.

We decided to resolve PE140 by saying that we have 
fiddled this wording enough and we aren't going to 
fiddle it any more for fear of making it worse.

We decided to resolve PE142 by saying that we have 
fiddled this wording enough and we aren't going to 
fiddle it any more for fear of making it worse.

ACTION to François: Update the PE document accordingly
for PE 140 and 142.

We note that the resolution to PE141 has already made 
a wording change in this area, but Richard pointed out  
that the wording should be:

  In a document with an external subset or parameter
  entity references...

(no "external").

That is, we made a mistake in the earlier resolution
of PE141.  We should update the resolution of PE141
to read as shown above.

ACTION to Francois:  Update the PE and Errata documents.

With respect to PE143, after production [60], we should 
add a reference to the "No External Entity References" WFC.

ACTION to François: Update the Errata and PE document 
accordingly for PE143.


7. Namespaces in XML.

Richard suggested we take NS 1.1 and revert the two 
substantive changes (IRI and undeclared namespaces) 
to create NS 1.0 2nd Ed. The WG has consensus to do 
that, and we got approval from the team to do so.

ACTION to Richard: Draft the 2nd edition of NS 1.0 
per the above plan (perhaps by creating a single XML 
source document for 1.0 and 1.1 using some conditionals).

ACTION to Richard: Draft a NS 1.1 2nd Edition including 
this IRI work and the outstanding NS 1.1 errata which, to 
date, includes only the issue about preventing abuses of xmlns.

Richard made a start and sent email at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Mar/0043

He will make a diff between 1.1 and 1.0 2nd Ed. 

We will have an appendix in 1.0 explaining the diffs 
between 1.0 1st Ed and 1.0 2nd Ed. (It will be the 
appendix from 1.1 minus the 1.1-specific changes.)


8. Xinclude Rec was published 2004 December 30 at:
   http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-xinclude-20041220/

Our XInclude potential errata document is at:
http://www.w3.org/XML/2005/01/proposed-xinclude-errata

Daniel has updated the Errata document at
http://www.w3.org/2004/12/xinclude-errata 

Daniel has added PEX17 about IRIs for XInclude.
http://www.w3.org/XML/2005/01/proposed-xinclude-errata#PEX17
He also augmented the errata document:
http://www.w3.org/2004/12/xinclude-errata/#PEX17

Daniel has drafted XInclude 2nd Edition with all 
the errata (including the IRI one) applied.  Details:

Daniel created a new subdirectory in CVS space, and worked
from the initial XInclude XML version. Result is 
http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/04/XInclude/REC-xinclude-20060423.html
with a diff version at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/04/XInclude/REC-xinclude-20060423-review.html

  Notes on preparation of the Second Edition:
    - Worked from http://www.w3.org/2004/12/xinclude-errata/
    - Updated the DTD to reference 2.10 and changed default
      embedded stylesheet
    - Added (Second Edition) to header
    - Fixed Previous versions to point of first edition, removed
      old previous
    - added author
    - added XHTML diff altloc
  Left TODO:
    - check that the IPR link is still valid
    - update the XInclude errata link to a new location, check
      the Status in general
    - make sure the section in 4.1.1 is really what was intended
      by PEX17


9.  Associating stylesheets--awaiting TAG action.

Henry reports that the HTML CG has been discussing this
for a while.  They are developing a draft statement of
the issue, and Chris Lilley will raise this at the XML CG.

Chris started the discussion on the XML CG list--see
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-cg/2005Jul/thread.html#15
The XML CG will continue to discuss it for a while.


10.  Henry raises that RFC 3023 is out of date and the draft
replacement has expired.  

Chris has gotten the source and made the changes.

There is a draft at
http://www.w3.org/2006/02/son-of-3023/draft-murata-kohn-lilley-xml-02.txt
that can be reviewed now with comments sent to the XML Core
mailing list and/or Chris Lilley.

Chris plans to open it up for public review April 26th.

When 3023bis becomes a reality, we might have some
specs that need updating for the reference, but we
don't expect any major changes.


[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Apr/0017
[7]
http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/02/proposed-xml10-3e-and-xml11-errata.html
[8] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V10-3e-errata
[9] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V11-1e-errata
[11] http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-xhtml-rdfa-primer-20060310/ 
[12] http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-xhtml-rdfa-primer-20060310/#id69192 
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