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Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2005 Sept 14

From: Paul Grosso <pgrosso@arbortext.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:18:34 -0400
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We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, 
September 14, from
          08:00-09:00 Pacific time aka
          11:00-12:00 Eastern time aka
          15:00-16:00 UTC
          16:00-17:00 in Ireland and the UK
          17:00-18:00 in middle (most of) Europe
on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .

See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.

Agenda
======
1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).


2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.

Norm says the TAG says we should talk to the CSS WG
about xml:id:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2005Aug/0005

But we have discussed this with the CSS WG, and they
added wording to the latest spec--see the final paragraph
of the section "5.9 ID selectors" at
http://www.w3.org/Style/css21-updates/WD-CSS21-20050613-20040225-diff/se
lector.html#id-selectors
where it mentions xml:id explicitly.

Norm pointed out the above to the TAG:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2005Sep/0009


3.  XLink update.

The LC WD of XLink 1.1 has been published:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-xlink11-20050707/

We have comments at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2005JulSep/

ACTION to Norm:  Reply as feasible and bring issues worth
discussing to the WG via email.

XLink 1.1: XML Base confusion
-----------------------------
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2005JulSep/
0009

XML Base references RFC 2396 and XLink references RFC 3987
(the IRI one) which references RFC 3986 (2396-bis) for
absolutization and such, but nothing has changed between
2396 and 3986 wrt absolutization.  So we don't see the problem.

ACTION to Norm:  Take this back to the commentor.

XLink 1.1: Error handling
-------------------------
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2005JulSep/
0013

We say what the conformance criteria are but not what
to do when an error is encountered.  For example, what
should we do if someone specifies an invalid value for
one of the xlink:* attributes.

Francois points out that this hasn't changed since XLink 1.0.

ACTION to Norm:  Craft some words along the lines of error
handling being implementation dependent.

XLink 1.1: XLink 1.1 in XML 1.1
-------------------------------
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2005JulSep/
0012

Norm suggests we just say that XLink works for both XML 1.0
and XML 1.1, and the names should just match the version
being used.

XLink 1.1: Integration with CSS
-------------------------------
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2005JulSep/
0018

How does XLink interact with CSS's :link selector?

Francois suggests that we add a note that says "languages
such as CSS should see XLink links as links."

ACTION to Norm:  Respond to the commenter and to the CSS WG.


4. XML errata.  The published 1.0 errata document is [8], the
   published 1.1 errata document is [9], and the new (public)
   Potential Errata (PE) document is [7]. 

ACTION to Francois:  Update the PE document including
issues raised on public-xml-testsuite@w3.org.


5. Namespaces in XML.

Richard suggested we take NS 1.1 and revert the two 
substantive changes (IRI and undeclared namespaces) 
to create NS 1.0 2nd Ed. The WG has consensus to do 
that, and we got approval from the team to do so.

Ongoing ACTION to Richard:  Produce a draft for NS1.0 2nd Ed.

We note that the IRI spec is now finished-RFC 3987-so 
we have to issue an erratum for NS 1.1 for this.  We
discussed some details of this under the XLink discussion:
http://www.w3.org/XML/2005/02/xml-f2f-20050303-minutes.htm#xlink
Briefly, 3987 does have some wording (the "MAY" paragraph) 
about what used to be called unwise characters.  For the 
NS 1.1 erratum, the MAY paragraph doesn't apply since 
namespace names cannot have the unwise characters.  (The 
MAY paragraph will be needed for XML 1.* system identifiers.)

ACTION to Richard:  Process an erratum to NS 1.1 to
refer to RFC 3987: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3987.txt


6. Xinclude Rec was published 2004 December 30 at:
   http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-xinclude-20041220/

Our XInclude potential errata document is at:
http://www.w3.org/XML/2005/01/proposed-xinclude-errata

We need to turn the PE document into an errata document.

ACTION to DV:  Produce a draft Errata document, using
http://www.w3.org/2004/12/xinclude-errata as a starting 
point/template.

Elliotte's results are not
included in our Implementation Report at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/xinclude-implementation/report.html
as he reports in
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-xinclude-comments/2005Jul/00
12

ACTION to Richard:  Add ERH's results to the XInclude IR.


7. xml:id is a Recommendation, published 2005 Sept 9:
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/REC-xml-id-20050909/


8.  Associating stylesheets--awaiting TAG action.

Henry reports that the HTML CG has been discussing this
for a while.  They are developing a draft statement of
the issue, and Chris Lilley will raise this at the XML CG.

Chris started the discussion on the XML CG list--see
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-cg/2005Jul/thread.html#15
The XML CG will continue to discuss it for a while.


[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2005Sep/0008
[7]
http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/02/proposed-xml10-3e-and-xml11-errata.html
[8] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V10-3e-errata
[9] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V11-1e-errata
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