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Re: Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2005 Sept 7--updated

From: François Yergeau <francois@yergeau.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 07:31:54 -0700
To: Paul Grosso <pgrosso@arbortext.com>
Cc: public-xml-core-wg@w3.org
Message-id: <431EF9DA.80500@yergeau.com>

I won't be able to make it today.

-- 
François

Paul Grosso a écrit :
> [Ignore the previous copy that was prematurely sent.  paul]
> 
> We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, 
> September 7, from
>           08:00-09:00 Pacific time aka
>           11:00-12:00 Eastern time aka
>           15:00-16:00 UTC
>           16:00-17:00 in Ireland and the UK
>           17:00-18:00 in middle (most of) Europe
> on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
> We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .
> 
> See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
> and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
> email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.
> 
> Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
> completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
> at the beginning of the call.
> 
> Agenda
> ======
> 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
>    the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
>    or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).
> 
> 
> 2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.
> 
> xml:lang in XML 1.0 (3e) and XML 1.1 issue:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2005Aug/0003
> 
> CONSENSUS: The schema for the XML namespace should allow 
> xml:lang values to include the empty string.
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Update the schema for the XML namespace
> and send announcements to appropriate fora.
> 
> ---
> 
> Paul asked a question about the schema for schemas:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2005Aug/0008
> 
> Henry agrees that it looks like a bug that the DTD
> for schemas doesn't allow 0 and 1 for values of
> the boolean datatype.
> 
> Paul sent the message to www-xml-schema-comments.
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Shepherd it from there.
> 
> ---
> 
> Norm says the TAG says we should talk to the CSS WG
> about xml:id:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2005Aug/0005
> 
> But we have discussed this with the CSS WG, and they
> added wording to the latest spec--see the final paragraph
> of the section "5.9 ID selectors" at
> http://www.w3.org/Style/css21-updates/WD-CSS21-20050613-20040225-diff/se
> lect
> or.html#id-selectors
> where it mentions xml:id explicitly.
> 
> ACTION to Norm:  Point out the above to the TAG.
> 
> 
> 3.  XLink update.
> 
> The LC WD of XLink 1.1 has been published:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-xlink11-20050707/
> 
> We have comments at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2005JulSep/
> 
> ACTION to Norm:  Reply as feasible and bring issues worth
> discussing to the WG via email.
> 
> XLink 1.1: XML Base confusion
> -----------------------------
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2005JulSep/
> 0009
> 
> XML Base references RFC 2396 and XLink references RFC 3987
> (the IRI one) which references RFC 3986 (2396-bis) for
> absolutization and such, but nothing has changed between
> 2396 and 3986 wrt absolutization.  So we don't see the problem.
> 
> ACTION to Norm:  Take this back to the commentor.
> 
> XLink 1.1: Error handling
> -------------------------
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2005JulSep/
> 0013
> 
> We say what the conformance criteria are but not what
> to do when an error is encountered.  For example, what
> should we do if someone specifies an invalid value for
> one of the xlink:* attributes.
> 
> Francois points out that this hasn't changed since XLink 1.0.
> 
> ACTION to Norm:  Craft some words along the lines of error
> handling being implementation dependent.
> 
> XLink 1.1: XLink 1.1 in XML 1.1
> -------------------------------
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2005JulSep/
> 0012
> 
> Norm suggests we just say that XLink works for both XML 1.0
> and XML 1.1, and the names should just match the version
> being used.
> 
> XLink 1.1: Integration with CSS
> -------------------------------
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2005JulSep/
> 0018
> 
> How does XLink interact with CSS's :link selector?
> 
> Francois suggests that we add a note that says "languages
> such as CSS should see XLink links as links."
> 
> ACTION to Norm:  Respond to the commenter and to the CSS WG.
> 
> 
> 4. XML errata.  The published 1.0 errata document is [8], the
>    published 1.1 errata document is [9], and the new (public)
>    Potential Errata (PE) document is [7]. 
> 
> ACTION to Francois:  Update the PE document including
> issues raised on public-xml-testsuite@w3.org.
> 
> 
> 5. Namespaces in XML.
> 
> Richard suggested we take NS 1.1 and revert the two 
> substantive changes (IRI and undeclared namespaces) 
> to create NS 1.0 2nd Ed. The WG has consensus to do 
> that, and we got approval from the team to do so.
> 
> Ongoing ACTION to Richard:  Produce a draft for NS1.0 2nd Ed.
> 
> We note that the IRI spec is now finished-RFC 3987-so 
> we have to issue an erratum for NS 1.1 for this.  We
> discussed some details of this under the XLink discussion:
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2005/02/xml-f2f-20050303-minutes.htm#xlink
> Briefly, 3987 does have some wording (the "MAY" paragraph) 
> about what used to be called unwise characters.  For the 
> NS 1.1 erratum, the MAY paragraph doesn't apply since 
> namespace names cannot have the unwise characters.  (The 
> MAY paragraph will be needed for XML 1.* system identifiers.)
> 
> ACTION to Richard:  Process an erratum to NS 1.1 to
> refer to RFC 3987: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3987.txt
> 
> 
> 6. Xinclude Rec was published 2004 December 30 at:
>    http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-xinclude-20041220/
> 
> Our XInclude potential errata document is at:
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2005/01/proposed-xinclude-errata
> 
> Daniel has updated the PE document with all the resolutions
> except a new one--see agenda item 11 below.
> 
> We need to turn the PE document into an errata document.
> 
> ACTION to DV:  Produce a draft Errata document, using
> http://www.w3.org/2004/12/xinclude-errata as a starting 
> point/template.
> 
> There have been some more XInclude test suite questions
> recently on the list:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-xinclude-comments/2005Jul/
> ERH is fielding them to some extent, but it would be good
> to have someone else (Richard, Daniel?) take a look too.
> 
> ACTION to Richard:  Take a look at the above exchange
> and let us know if you think we need to respond.
> 
> 
> 7. xml:id.
> 
> The PR was published (2005 July 12) at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/PR-xml-id-20050712/
> and the PR period closed a couple weeks ago.
> 
> The test suite is at http://www.w3.org/XML/Test/xml-id/ 
> 
> The "central page" for the implementation report is
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2005/01/xml-id-implementation.html
> 
> Rec-ready draft is at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/xmlcore/xmlid/xml-id.html
> with a diff version at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/xmlcore/xmlid/diff-20050906.html
> and a Doc at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/xml-id/pr-status/status-report.html
> 
> Henry, when can we expect a director's decision?
> 
> 
> 8.  Associating stylesheets--awaiting TAG action.
> 
> Henry reports that the HTML CG has been discussing this
> for a while.  They are developing a draft statement of
> the issue, and Chris Lilley will raise this at the XML CG.
> 
> Chris started the discussion on the XML CG list--see
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-cg/2005Jul/thread.html#15
> The XML CG will continue to discuss it for a while.
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
> [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
> [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2005Aug/0016
> [7]
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/02/proposed-xml10-3e-and-xml11-errata.html
> [8] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V10-3e-errata
> [9] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V11-1e-errata
> 
> 
> 
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