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Re: formalizing ITS integration in XHTML - proposed resolution (first draft)

From: Felix Sasaki <felix.sasaki@fh-potsdam.de>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:16:14 +0200
Message-ID: <ba4134970905122316n5d9185b8xa7d9eb3c5a820fa9@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>
Cc: public-xhtml2@w3.org, Yves Savourel <ysavourel@translate.com>, Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Hello Gregory, all,

looks all good, just one minor point.

2009/5/13 Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>

> aloha!
>
> in my preliminary work on providing quick reference wiki space for
> XHTML2 issues, examples & best practice collection, and such
>
> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/wiki/XHTML2
>
> i noticed that, although we resolved to discuss International Tag Set
> (ITS) integration with yves at the 23 April 2008 virtual face to face,
> but we never "codified" the results of our discussion with yves the WG
> never formally resolved to accept Yves' advice/answers -- i have drafted
> a proposed resolution (which might be moot already, depending upon
> shane's schedule, but i would like to formally propose the following just
> in order to ensure that the WG agree upon what was said and agreed to
> in regards ITS integration.
>
> what follows my signature is a proposed resolution covering the points
> of agreement and clarification concerning ITS integration, which also
> can be found on the discussion page for the ITS issue on the XHTML2 wiki:
>
> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/wiki/Talk:XHTML2/i18n/ITS
>
> where it is clearly noted that it has yet to be vetted (or voted upon) by
> the working group
>
> this may just be a formality or administrivial overkill, but provided
> that i, who was scribing, captured the conversation correctly, it would
> put the procedural ribbon on a WG-to-WG formal request/collaboration, and
> it is best to have it in the form of a resolution so that -- if any
> question pertaining to ITS or the i18n module arise in the future --
> there is a definitive decision by the WG we can reference...  besides,
> we covered more than merely the answers to the initial 3 questions posed
> to Yves initially (which i "subtopic-ed" in the minutes), so there may
> be more to agree upon (or disagree over)
>
> this falls under my self-assigned action/volunteer offer to collect all
> of the resolutions concerning XHTML2 made since 2008-01 (and going back
> later if deemed necessary after that, although i think i only need to
> trace back until we switched from shane's tracker to the w3c tracker) up
> on the wiki so that the resolutions made pertaining to each module can be
> traced, pointed to and referenced when and if the need for such
> documentation arises...
>
> in any event, i think it a good way to expedite things by not only
> capturing resolutions in minutes, but by collecting them in a consistent
> manner, so that we don't have to grok the archives every time we're
> digging into an issue and/or have differing recollections of precisely
> what was previously decided by the WG...  unfortunately, i have not made
> as much progress on this effort as i would like, but i plan on keeping
> atop all new resolutions and have plenty of minutes announcements in
> which i compiled the resolutions from a WG session, so i should be able
> to get a lot up -- albeit in a piecemeal fashion -- relatively quickly,
> good lord willin' and the crick don't rise again...
>
> gregory
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>
> formalizing ITS integration in XHTML
>
>   Question: Since the WG did not formally resolve to accept Yves'
>   answers to our questions in regards ITS integration, do i (or someone)
>   need to propose a resolution at a WG meeting in order to record our
>   acceptance of Yves' answers as a RESOLUTION.
>
> <quote cite="http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/wiki/Talk:XHTML2/i18n/ITS"
>
>
> 1. Resolution(s) Regarding International Tag Set (ITS) Integration
>
>   PROPOSED RESOLUTION: the XHTML2 WG accepts the advice regarding ITS
>   integration provided by Yves Savourel during the discussion of ITS at
>   the 2009-04-23 virtual Face2Face [ref 1], specifically:
>
>    1. authors may use XHTML's native span element to insert inline ITS;
>       for this purpose;
>
>    2. XHTML2 will specify ITS integration in its i18n module; [ref 2]
>
>    3. the current Ruby module [ref 3] will also be subsumed into the
>       expanded i18n module [ref 4]
>
>    4. support for external ITS support alone would satisfy the i18n
>       community today, but there remains a future case for inline
>       support for ITS using XHTML2's native span element;
>
>    5. XHTML will use link with <rel="itsrules"> in head to reference an
>       International Tag Set (ITS) document



HTML 5 uses for the same purpose <rel="i18nrules">, see
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2009Apr/0012.html
probably it would be good to use the same values here?

Regards, Felix


>
>
>   -- question posed on wiki by GJR on 2009-05-10
>
> Retrieved from
>   "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/wiki/Talk:XHTML2/i18n/ITS"
> </quote>
>
> References
>   1. http://www.w3.org/2009/04/23-xhtml-minutes.html#item04
>   2. http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/wiki/XHTML2/i18n
>   3. http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/wiki/XHTML2/i18n/Ruby
>   4. http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/wiki/XHTML2/i18n
>
>
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