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Re: xhtml-access WD put up

From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:07:46 +0100
To: Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>
Cc: XHTML WG <public-xhtml2@w3.org>
Message-Id: <20080413160210.M16860@hicom.net>

aloha, shane!

thanks for quickly addressing my concern -- i would greatly appreciate
it if this convention were followed in all the M12n documents, as 
the use of asterisks to denote default or required values is the bane 
of most speech output dependent users, unless they are glossed to 
explain not only what they symbolize, but that such a demarcator is 
present...

thanks again for taking quick and responsive (not to mention responsible)
action on this issue,

gregory.

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---------- Original Message -----------
From: Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>
To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>
Cc: XHTML WG <public-xhtml2@w3.org>
Sent: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:22:35 -0500
Subject: Re: xhtml-access WD put up

> I have made that change.  Note that the syntax used there is the 
> standard that we used in all XHTML M12N modules.  So I guess we 
> need to make those changes throughout M12N.
> 
> Gregory J. Rosmaita wrote:
> > aloha, shane!
> >
> > 1 quick question on a VERY quick pass of the xhtml-access WD you
> > pushed yesterday:
> >
> > in section 3.1.1. the title of which is "activate = ( yes | no* )",
> > i assume that the asterisk trailing "no" demarcates that it is the
> > default -- if that is correct, then you need to encase the asterisk
> > in an acronym or abbr expansion, explicitly marking the asterisk 
> > as signifying "default", otherwise, the draft is guilty of using 
> > ASCII art, as trailing asterisks are NOT likely to be spoken when the
> > page is spoken -- in "real life" enunciation of the asterisk will 
> > occur extremely rarely, as one would have to increase one's normal 
> > punctuation level to a reporting level that would drive most people 
> > mad, or at least to distraction...  the only reason i "found" the 
> > asterisk is that, when i review a technical spec, i put punctuation 
> > mode to "all punctuation" so that i don't miss the subtleties of the 
> > text and examples...  moreover, the asterisk is a purely visual 
> > signifier, and i could not find any instance in the document which 
> > indicates that asterisks are used to indicate default values...
> >
> > could you, therefore, make the following correction to the WD:
> >
> > <h3><a id="sec_3.1.1."
> >   
> >> 3.1.1. <code>activate</code> = ( yes | no<abbr title=" default"
> >> *</abbr> )</a></h3>
> >>     
> >
> > thank you -- more substantive comments to follow,
> > gregory.
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> >
> > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > From: Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>
> > To: XHTML WG <public-xhtml2@w3.org>
> > Sent: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:29:51 -0500
> > Subject: xhtml-access WD put up
> >
> >   
> >> After a discussion with Roland today, I updated the xhtml-access 
> >> document to prepare for last call.  My shot at this is available 
> >> at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/WD-xhtml-access-20080418/
> >>
> >> I think it is ready to go, but I have been wrong before ;-)
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Shane P. McCarron                          Phone:  1 763 786-
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> >>     
> > shane@aptest.com
> > ------- End of Original Message -------
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> Shane P. McCarron                          Phone:  1 763 786-
> 8160 x120 Managing Director                            Fax:  1 
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