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Re: ARIA States and Properties Meeting

From: Aaron M Leventhal <aleventh@us.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:02:17 -0400
To: Michael A Squillace <masquill@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "Anne van Kesteren" <annevk@opera.com>, "David Woolley" <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>, public-html@w3.org, public-xhtml2@w3.org, Sam Ruby <rubys@us.ibm.com>, w3c-html-cg@w3.org, w3c-wai-pf@w3.org, w3c-wai-pf-request@w3.org, www-svg@w3.org
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Right, there will still be some need for ARIA after HTML 5 is implemented 
by all vendors -- for live regions, custom widgets and continued JS 
toolkit support.
But, that's off topic -- the main point for this discussion is that we 
need ARIA to work now, and be as consistent as possible.

- Aaron





Michael A Squillace/Austin/IBM@IBMUS 
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10/24/2007 09:45 AM

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Re: ARIA States and Properties Meeting







> Anne van Kesteren wrote: 
>The point is that HTML currently doesn't support namespaces and that ARIA 
 
>is a solution for current HTML, not HTML5. If HTML5 were to be supported 
>by all vendors ARIA would not even be needed.

This is not clear to me. I will admit that I haven't read the entire HTML5 
draft, but there's still room for ARIA given the potential for 
extensibility via JavaScript. 
I think the ARIA FAQ  answers this: 

http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/ARIA:_Accessible_Rich_Internet_Applications/Relationship_to_HTML_FAQ#Will_authors_still_need_to_build_JavaScript_widgets_when_HTML5_is_available.3F 


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"Anne van Kesteren" <annevk@opera.com> 
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10/24/2007 08:35 AM 


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Sam Ruby/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS 
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:29:48 +0200, Sam Ruby <rubys@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> Anne van Kesteren wrote:
>>  as HTML doesn't support namespaces.
>
> Given that context, it is fair to talk about the reasons why HTML5 does 
> not currently support namespaces, and the consequences (both positive 
> and negative) to that state of affairs; but it is not fair to state it 
> as if it were a foregone conclusion.

The point is that HTML currently doesn't support namespaces and that ARIA 
is a solution for current HTML, not HTML5. If HTML5 were to be supported 
by all vendors ARIA would not even be needed.


-- 
Anne van Kesteren
<http://annevankesteren.nl/>
<http://www.opera.com/>
Received on Wednesday, 24 October 2007 15:19:38 GMT

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