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Re: Normative vs Informative

From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:52:41 +0100
Cc: public-xg-webid@w3.org
Message-Id: <21D0BE29-2B21-4BDF-B820-825832693B25@bblfish.net>
To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>

On 28 Nov 2011, at 20:43, Kingsley Idehen wrote:

> On 11/28/11 2:31 PM, Henry Story wrote:
>> Please, let's stop this type of empty talk, and start building cool apps.
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> How do a lot of people build cool apps of specificity hits them at the front door? Said issue arises because a simple concept is obscured by syntax preferences that appear as syntax specificity?

Look we are very pragmatic.  We embrace ASN.1, X509 because we are working with legacy technology that works. We combine that with semantic web tools, because WebID makes sense as Linked Data tool. To those who don't get LinkedData the whole point of WebID will be lost. Linked Data is the point of the Semantic Web and RDF.

So there is no point to bend over to try to deal with people who don't get Linked Data. 

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> If an app can make a directed graph and traverse its tapestry en route to verifying existence of a "mirrored claim" but does so without any interest in RDF, right now you'll reject it as heretic.
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> If you really want people to build apps, the be clear about what profile we mean here. WebID is an example of what you can do with a Web with semantically enhanced tapestry. None of that really means RDF solely. This is the hurdle you are really refusing to cross. RDF is but an option. The Web is much more than RDF and its the Web and its underlying architecture that make things like InterWeb scale Linked Data possible.

I don't understand anything you say Kingsley. OpenLink is known because it brought linked data with the RDF model to great visibility. If it were not for that I would never have heard of it. Those who need SQL databases,  will go to Oracle before they do anything else. 

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> RDF always introduces unnecessary complexity and distraction

No it does not. It is the cornerstone of everything we are doing. On this group we will be doing things the RDF way. There is no changing that. I am sure you won't mind.

So let's move this discussion on.

Henry



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