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Re: WebID-ISSUE-27 (bblfish): track electronic IDentity (eID) initivatives [liaison with other groups]

From: <jeff@sayremedia.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 07:49:31 -0800
Message-ID: <076538551110fb162629954bb10f0ec1.squirrel@webmail.sayremedia.com>
To: "WebID Incubator Group WG" <public-xg-webid@w3.org>
We should package this issue along with ISSUE-8: US (Commerce Department?)
ID initiative

http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/issues/8

It is inevitable that sovereign governments will create their own
identification protocols. In the discussion threads linked to in the above
link, I commented on how government-run identity protocols are
antithetical to the Web as the Web (and of course the Internet) transcends
national boundaries.

I suggest that we consider combining all such government initiatives into
a single issue so as to better track and organize our discussions around
this important topic.

>
> WebID-ISSUE-27 (bblfish): track electronic IDentity (eID) initivatives
> [liaison with other groups]
>
> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/issues/27
>
> Raised by: Henry Story
> On product: liaison with other groups
>
>
> On 8 Feb 2011, at 11:11, Henry Story wrote:
>
> In Monday's teleconf Martin Gaedke pointed out
>
>    gaedke: regarding electronic IDs, there is something going on in
> Germany
>    ... also in other countries ongoing
>    <webr3> like the US too
>   <gaedke> http://www.epass.de/
>   <gaedke> http://www.personalausweisportal.de/
>
> This started the thread on German Identity Cards
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-webid/2011Feb/0097.html
>
> I added a lot of the links that came up on that thread on wikipedia's page
>
>   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_identity_card
>
> which is a bit of a mess at present, and not very well written up. They
> are still missing a good simple architectural overview of what eID's do.
> In 2009 the EU came out with "Privacy Features of European eID
> CardSpecifications"
>
>   http://www.enisa.europa.eu/act/it/eid/eid-cards-en
>
> What is worrying is that the German Identity card is RFID enabled. See
> this video where Chris Piaget queries these cards
>
>    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9isKnDiJNPk
>
> Not sure if there is a problem here. The german card has a pin, to protect
> it.
>
> A lot of the information is either too hight level marketing, or too low
> level technical. Some questions we need to answer are are:
>    - how do these interact with TLS?
>    - Is the TLS/Browser interaction the main use case?
>       (The linux article shows this nicely [1])
>      => if they interact well then it should be a positive for WebID, as
> it will just
>        increase the TLS userbase, and spread eID card readers that could
> also be useful in a web
>        of trust
>    - they have signature functionality. When is that used? Via TLS?
>    - the german id cards readers seem to have SOAP interfaces to query
> them. Is this just legacy stuff.
>
>
> [1] But is the Belgian eID scheme the same as the german one?
>     http://nauseamedialis.org/belgian_eid_archlinux
>     My guess is that given the ubiquity of the browser, they will all be
> using TLS
>
>
>
>
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