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RE: Minutes of the 2011-02-07 WebID XG meeting

From: Peter Williams <home_pw@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:31:47 -0800
Message-ID: <SNT143-w21B4D3BFBDBF9F07F7B0CA92EB0@phx.gbl>
CC: "public-xg-webid@w3.org" <public-xg-webid@w3.org>

some use case models, jfyi.

 http://xml.coverpages.org/Maler-saml-basics.ppt ignore the saml, just look at the quality of the presentation...
 
https://noppa.tkk.fi/noppa/kurssi/t-110.5110/luennot/T-110_5110__8.pdf.pdf ignore the oauth/rest/openid/... again the style of presentation may provide some hints
 
http://www.eclipse.org/project-slides/Higgins%201.0%20Release%20Review.pdf higgens 2005-2008. Probably the nearest match to what we do here. They fired their musket too early in the battle, basicaly.... Old, buts lots of links and concept papers.
 
http://www.authorstream.com/Presentation/Vital-49785-Wall-SSW-2006-Two-Factor-Authentication-Planning-considerations-best-practices-Or-half-Identifica-a-Education-ppt-powerpoint/ ...to see where the managed infrastructure folks are going
 
 
I'm basically clueless on how the semantic web really is supposed to work, beyond sending the FOAF profile doc around, and doing mashup of data sources due to the inherent properties of the RDF model.. But, thats why Im try not to go beyond security, crypto, handshakes, trust due to linked cert authorities. 
 
What I hope to see from folks who understand it (and who thus add lots of value to the old https client-server concept)  is uses cases that in some sense are NOT the stuff above, merely recast (yet again).
 
what Im hoping is laid out is something along the lines of: there exists a useful crypto primitive; there is a handshake, there are sequences of handshakes; there is the URI with schemes and authorities with typed endpoints; one can bind profiles to anonymous client authenticated handshake runs; the de-ferencing act binds profile data to the handshake; the web architecture takes care of scaling large system design; ontologies based in logic then deliver the same functionality of the stuff in the other papers - but its delivered the fielding way.
 
 
> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:01:23 +0000
> From: nathan@webr3.org
> To: melvincarvalho@gmail.com
> CC: michael.hausenblas@deri.org; public-xg-webid@w3.org; jeff@sayremedia.com
> Subject: Re: Minutes of the 2011-02-07 WebID XG meeting
> 
> Great news, thanks Melvin :)
> 
> cc Jeff, do you think you can pull some time over the coming weeks and 
> months to contrib to the use cases? I know you understand the 
> requirements of this space well.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Nathan
> 
> Melvin Carvalho wrote:
> > Thanks mh!
> > 
> > I'm happy to help Nathan on the use cases. I will follow up on this
> > out of band.
> > 
> > I've started fleshing out a page of high level concepts:
> > 
> > http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/wiki/Use_Cases_and_Requirements
> > 
> > There's probably a ton of stuff in the old wiki that we can refine on this.
> > 
> > I've also popped a note into the folks at openid to see if they have a
> > list. May be a good data point ...
> > 
> > On 7 February 2011 18:08, Michael Hausenblas
> > <michael.hausenblas@deri.org> wrote:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> The minutes of today's call are available for review at [1], with the
> >> following NEW actions (see [2] for all open actions):
> >>
> >> [NEW] ACTION: bblfish to explore test case options
> >>
> >> [NEW] ACTION: mhausenb to propose F2F meeting
> >>
> >> [NEW] ACTION: scor create draft for Implementation report on wiki
> >>
> >> [NEW] ACTION: scor to explain how to contribute to the WebID spec
> >>
> >> [NEW] ACTION: Nathan tocCreate draft doc for use cases on Wiki
> >>
> >>
> >> Next telecon is in two weeks time, on 21 Feb 2011.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Michael
> >>
> >> [1] http://www.w3.org/2011/02/07-webid-minutes.html
> >> [2] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/actions/open
> >>
> >> --
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