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Re: Normative vs Informative

From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:41:01 +0100
Cc: elf Pavlik <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>, public-xg-webid <public-xg-webid@w3.org>
Message-Id: <B021210F-3967-4530-B178-E43F950666D0@bblfish.net>
To: Peter Williams <home_pw@msn.com>

On 17 Dec 2011, at 17:05, Peter Williams wrote:

> What has another production ready semweb community done?
> 
> If this is still at the academic debating/posturing level, it tells me that the technology has not matured - any where on the public web (since format wars like codec wars become unimportant, simply hindering use).

A few weeks ago you said you were going to leave this list. Last week you said you were going for two weeks.
Can you please stop being the local drama queen, and just do some coding? 

We are still waiting for your implementations, open source and running on a service, and testable. 

Henry

> 
> Sent from my iPhonen
> 
> On Dec 16, 2011, at 6:38 AM, "Henry Story" <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 16 Dec 2011, at 14:53, elf Pavlik wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Folks =)
>>> 
>>> What a intense thread, please check out this very short video first:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EGTETc5oFU
>> 
>> :D
>> 
>>> 
>>> Excerpts from Kingsley Idehen's message of 2011-11-27 23:03:40 +0000:
>>> <snip /> 
>>>> I have a simple question for you: who are these massive adopters and 
>>>> implementers of RDF/XML? Who are these people sitting on the side 
>>>> waiting to implement a spec that RDF/XML specific? What is there to gain 
>>>> by all of this? Parser developer satisfaction? If so, who are these 
>>>> parser developers?
>>> 
>>> I've just looked at:
>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/wiki/Implementations
>>> 
>>> What do you think about making an open pool on all those formats and inviting all the implementers and others who have code in development to express their preferences? I've started list here:
>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/wiki/Implementations#People_working_on_implementations
>> 
>> I agree. The idea is to work from what is working with all of us, and see what implementers want to communicate. We can change what is a MUST as things progress, add new formats, remove others, until at some point it does not become that important anymore. At first these MUSTs are really just there so that people who don't come from semweb spaces, don't get too big a shock. 
>> 
>> As for RDF/XML vs Turtle for example it's really a question how the linked data community feels. If they feel it's time to move
>> then we could make that move.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Ho Ho Ha Ha Ha ;)
>> 
>> You have it right. These MUSTs are there as a clever joke :D
>> 
>> Ho Ho Ha Ha !
>> 
>> Hehehehehe....
>> 
>> 
>>> ~ elf Pavlik ~
>>> 
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>>> 
>> 
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>> http://bblfish.net/
>> 
>> 

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